George Foreman vs Mike Tyson

In his prime how hard was Tyson to hit cleanly? Very hard! He was super elusive. He faced guys with alot faster hands, and was rarely hit cleanly. Frazier bobbed and weaved, but his style coming forward was way more predictable to Tyson's.

 

I've always got the feeling in this matchup that Foreman would look very, very slow.

Tyson by KO within 6 in what could be a good fight.

 

Well, the only thing everybody agrees so far is that this fight doesn't go 12 rounds, so, there is some sense left in these boards

I vote for George in this one. He is all wrong for Tyson, style-wise.

Sure, Tyson has still a chance, but in order to get closer he will have to accept a lot of punishment, just like Frazier did in Kingston (and paid dearly for that), but Tyson lacks the toughness and heart of Smoking Joe.

George, KO in 6

 

Why, thanks

I am not boxing expert, but I was just stating the obvious

 

Tyson didnt take a lot of punishment in his prime. He was definitely less predictable than Frazier ever was. I guess you never watched Tyson in the 80's? If so what makes you think he lacks toughness?

 

This has always been my problem with picking Tyson against Foreman.

 

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Good response.

I DO sorta agree with lefthook (although I think he was a bit rude in his assesment of your boxing knowledge as you're one of the most polite posters around here) but I think Tyson's chin was underrated.

I know what you mean though PdP; Tyson never 'came back' from a beating. And as you think it will be hard for him to avoid a beating you can't envision him winning.

Fair points indeed; one of the reasons this fight is more intriguing in a fantasty sense than Ali vs Tyson

 

First off, there is no way Tyson is stopping George.
Second, George really wasn't slow at 217 to 224. Ali made him look slow.

Third, Foreman is just too strong and stops Tyson within 4.

 

Whilst Foreman would no doubt have the power to end the fight at any time, Tyson's defense was vastly superior to Formeman's, as was Mike's conditioning! In the Ali fight, George was ****ed after three rounds, you can see it in him!

Tyson's chin is underrated imo. He could take a helluva shot & still be there wanting to go into the trenches! Tyson would prove too fast, & have too much variety for Foreman!

Foreman's only hope is to get Tyson out of there early, but at the same time there's every chance Tyson could take care of business early!

Tyson by TKO8

 

Didnt mean to be rude, it was more presented as a question to him. Either way, it gets a little annoying to hear people say Tyson lacked toughness. Tyson showed his toughness quite well in fights, even when losing, against Douglas and Lennox Lewis, and I dont believe Foreman could ever hit as hard as Lennox Lewis, and Razor Ruddock. Tyson never really had to display his heart in the early days because noone could compete with him, but as far as him showing it, I would say he had to fight through some adversity in the first Ruddock fight. Ruddock was very competitive in the first few rounds, and tagged Tyson cleanly and hard with hooks and uppercuts. Tyson at that point was a lot easier to hit, but still showed the heart of a championship fighter. To me his post prison career can almost be written off as a giant exhibition. It wasnt the same fighter in there. There was no determination to win, other than go for a quick KO.
Also I think Foreman's "mental toughness" was overstated in his prime. In fact he admitted he was a bit of a bully in his prime, and he was quite humbled by Ali. The second career of Foreman had a much more mentally strong fighter, but with less speed and power. To me Frazier was a better version of David Tua, very similar in style very predictable in punches coming at the opponent.

 

:nono