A Clear Cut Explanation On Why Floyd "DOES" Deserve The Lions Share Against Pacman...

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by walk with me, Jul 27, 2009.


  1. Jackolythe

    Jackolythe Active Member Full Member

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    50/50 fight is fair. Take it or run.

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  2. Powerman55

    Powerman55 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Anyway Walk with Me. I've figured something out.

    The reason no one defends Mayweather Jr is because he looks after himself. He makes sure everyone knows what he has achieved. He's constantly saying what he deserves and about his fitness and skills. He tryed to steal Pac's limelight by announcing his comeback on the night of Hatton-Pac. AND THEN calling Marquez-Mayweather Jr Number 1/Numero Uno. How out of order is that!!

    Mayweather Jr doesn't need you to look out for him. He can defend himself.

    Whereas someone like Manny Pacquaio doesn't say much and retains a dignified silence but people end up making up loads of **** that has no truth whatsoever so people step up to defend him. It's silly on this board people are discrediting all of his wins, saying he's a cherrypicking fighter who fights old fighters at catchweights.

    And this was before he'd even had a catchweight fight!
     
  3. eraser122

    eraser122 Member Full Member

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    So then: Floyd's argument, and really nothing more. Floyd may get more, or may not get more.

    IIRC Floyd is signed to a 5-fight deal with GBP. JMM is the first one, so then after that, then what? Shane could be 2nd, maybe Paul Williams 3rd, but already at that point he runs out of viable opponents, so thus, the winner of Pacquiao-Cotto. And then he still has 1 fight left on the deal to go. Arum knows this, so this could very well also factor into negotiations.
     
  4. bladerunner

    bladerunner El Intocable Full Member

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    just by reading the thread title i know this thread is garbage.
     
  5. Knives7

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    First two statements are irrelevant. You're rating Floyd Mayweather Jr higher than Manny Pacquiao because Floyd beat Hoya and Hatton first. IMO, Hatton was actually stronger and better fighter when he fought Pacquiao. And Pacquiao beating them convincingly is irrelevant? If speak about the PPV revenue of Pac vs Hatton/Hoya, it relatively smaller than May vs Hatton/Hoya. Have you ever consider that when Pacquiao fought Hatton and Hoya the
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    ? When Mayweather fought them the economy was normal.

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    . Where did you get this data from? Did you run a survery, ask a few fans? How? I could say Manny could do the same. Pacquiao vs Mayweather, Pacquiao vs Cotto, Pacquiao vs Mosley, and Pacquiao vs Marquez. This 3 fights excluding MP vs FM, can definitely make as much revenue as Mayweather fighting Mosley and Cotto.

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    . Pacquiao's career is already secured in the boxing history. All he's doing now is just adding some more names to his records. You stated Mayweather is the most sucessful boxer in his era. Is it because of his zero record? Or do you think that he is the most popular boxer in his generation? Mayweather will become a hall of famer but so is Pacquiao. Mayweather will probably be and ATG but so is Pacquiao. Maybe Pacquiao will be ranked higher than Mayweather as ATG who knows. Only time will tell. Right now they're about even. I believe that Mayweather's legacy will be remembered for his boring style and wins (no offense). Pacquiao will be remembered for his exciting style and wins.

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    When Pacquiao annihilated the Hoya and Hatton nobody can deny that
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    and that is why everyone wants to see the FM vs MP fight.

    If we are going to decide the split share of the purse, it should be a 50-50 split (legacy wise). If we are deciding base on the fan base, 60 -40 in favor of Pacquiao. No offense to Floyd Mayweather fans but Pacquiao has more fans (yes, yes, including the *******s) than Mayweather.
     
  6. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    At this point, Pac's legacy is head and shoulders above Floyds. If Floyd wants to be considered in the running as the best fighter of a generation, he needs to fight Pacquiao. And he should pay the price to get that opportunity. These guys both have alot of money. At this point in their lives legacy should be more important. Pac already has a big edge in that department, so Floyd should be willing to give up more to make this fight happen.
     
  7. Windigo

    Windigo Boxing Addict Full Member

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  9. Little Pea

    Little Pea 'A' grade boxing fan Full Member

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    How the fact that Mayweather doesn't like Arum or doesn't want him to get his money should be a reason for Pac to take less?

    This is NOT a valid reason.

    How is the fact that Mayweather doesn't need money should be a reason for Pac to get less?

    This is NOT a valid reason.

    Kinda agree with this. But based on "what have you done for me lately?" 50-50 doesn't seem unfair at all.


    Again, you talk about Mayweather getting less money. How about 50-50?
    And by the way, Manny beat ODLH and Hatton more convincingly. This is NOT debateable..if you know something about boxing.




    How is the fact that Mayweather doesn't need Pacquiao (assuming it is a fact) should be a reason for Pacquiao to get less money? This is NOT a valid reason for Pacquiao to get less.

    ANd this jewel: "
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    (after me typing this its a bit clearer to why floyd always says he is still the p4p #1)" Alright. I supposed Floyd aquired the p4p crown by defeating Baldomir?

    And that fifth piece is repeating both Third and fourth pieces. You shouldn't complain too much about people not wanting to read the post entirely.

    So other fighters should just fight for legacy while Mayweather has the right to fight for the money (and the bigger share)?

    This is NOT a valid reason for Pacquiao to get less.
     
  10. Windigo

    Windigo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I love how walk with me says that Floyd does not need to come back to the ring. The IRS is on his ass and its all public record. He aint fooling no one.
     
  11. Knives7

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    exactly!
     
  12. J.E.Cash

    J.E.Cash Boxing Addict Full Member

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    My responses are within the quote in blue.

     
  13. Little Pea

    Little Pea 'A' grade boxing fan Full Member

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    Good post J.E Cash.

    No bitching. Just answers.
     
  14. J.E.Cash

    J.E.Cash Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Complete ***** Move. Your anaysis wasn't even objective. You didn't have many valid facts. It was opinion on why Floyd should make more. Many of the same arguments you made can also be applied to Pac.
     
  15. Knives7

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    good post man but his first statement is invalid. I mean so what if Floyd is talking to a third party? It is Manny that is paying Arum. Floyd in not paying Arum. Manny pretty much tells Arum what he wants and Arum helps him. Although I think that Arum is a greedy son of a ***** if he is taking 27% of Manny's money.