Any Objection If I Do The Light-HW's???

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Flea Man, Jul 27, 2009.

  1. Flea Man

    Flea Man มวยสากล

    Joined:
    Sep 7, 2008
    Messages:
    82,426
    Likes Received:
    1,478
    Well, is there?

    Also, I am planning to 'plan' it for a week (a rather clever device in order to let the pleminaries take place on here, of which the board is being battered with at the moment) and is there any objection if I do it post-war only (therefore emitting popular choices such as Gene Tunney, Sam Langford, Carpentier, etc etc etc) as I think there is already a huge amount of 'post-war' LHW's to choose from and, I myself usually discuss only that era onwards.

    Or does that make me a bad choice to moderate one of these tourneys???

    Anyways, suggestions for fighters are of course appreciated, the first ones I can think off the top of my head are;

    Joey Maxim
    Harold Johnson
    Ezzard Charles
    Archie Moore
    Willie Pastrano
    Jose Torres
    Dick Tiger
    Galindez
    John Conteh
    Matthew Saad Muhammad
    Dwight Qawi
    Eddie Mustafa Muhammad
    Bob Foster
    Mike Spinks
    Virgil Hill
    Roy Jones
    Bernard Hopkins
    Michael Moorer

    I'm sure I've missed some out. There are others I'm thinking of including such as Parlov and Marvin Johnson, do they deserve to be in there?What about Tommy Hearns, Yaqui Lopez,Dariusz Michalczewski, Any other NOTABLE OMISSIONS????? Or just guys that would be useful additions due to their H2H ability.

    As I say, any objections, suggestions; let me know. I assume we are just 'picking out of the hat'???





    I'm sure I've missed loads. Just trying to get it in before someone else does. If someone already has dibs, I apologise.
     
  2. Azumah1

    Azumah1 Member Full Member

    Joined:
    Dec 20, 2008
    Messages:
    438
    Likes Received:
    3
    Sorry to quibble Flea ole boy!!! But surely OMISSIONS rather than EMISSIONS!!:good
     
  3. Flea Man

    Flea Man มวยสากล

    Joined:
    Sep 7, 2008
    Messages:
    82,426
    Likes Received:
    1,478
    Cheers, if you remember I can't spell! Still, a suggestion is a suggestion, but I think I might have already missed out to be honse.t Now I've posted I'm starting to remember that there has already been one:patsch:patsch:patsch:patsch:patsch:patsch:patsch:patsch:patsch:patsch:patsch:patsch
     
  4. Manassa

    Manassa - banned

    Joined:
    Apr 6, 2007
    Messages:
    7,766
    Likes Received:
    94
    Gene Tunney
    Maxie Rosenbloom
    Jimmy Bivins
    Tommy Loughran
    Tommy Gibbons
    Billy Conn
    Sam Langford
    Jack Dillon
    John Henry Lewis
    Philadelphia Jack O' Brien

    And perhaps Harry Greb, Kid Norfolk & Battling Levinsky.

    I'd take out Jersey Joe Walcott.

    EDIT: Sorry, didn't see the post-war bit!
     
  5. Flea Man

    Flea Man มวยสากล

    Joined:
    Sep 7, 2008
    Messages:
    82,426
    Likes Received:
    1,478
    Thanks mate, I didn't say I wouldn't add old timers! wanted feedback before deciding.

    Anyways, I have a feeling I've been beaten to it, too busy to trawl through the last two weeks of posts!!!!
     
  6. Flea Man

    Flea Man มวยสากล

    Joined:
    Sep 7, 2008
    Messages:
    82,426
    Likes Received:
    1,478
    so have they been done or not?
     
  7. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member

    Joined:
    Jun 2, 2006
    Messages:
    98,716
    Likes Received:
    30,652
    :oops:Jack O Brien,oh my word.
     
  8. la-califa

    la-califa Boxing Addict Full Member

    Joined:
    Jun 12, 2007
    Messages:
    6,292
    Likes Received:
    56
    James Scott, Mike Rossman, Glen Johnson, Doug Jones, Charles Williams, Jerry Martin, just to name a few more.
     
  9. Flea Man

    Flea Man มวยสากล

    Joined:
    Sep 7, 2008
    Messages:
    82,426
    Likes Received:
    1,478
    As I say, I think it MAY have already been done. Can't find it through the couple of pages I have scanned through.

    Don't think Glen Johnson is quite on the level of some of these guys to be honest, tough S.O.B that he is.
     
  10. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

    Joined:
    Jul 22, 2004
    Messages:
    42,723
    Likes Received:
    279
    Why not put in Calzaghe, yes he only had 2 fights officially but 168lbs was LHW in the old days and same day weigh ins would probably mean he'd fight at 175 instead of 168 anyway. Toney never performed at his best at the weight but I like to question 'what if Toney was at his very best at 175'

    Hard to do a tourny without Tunney/Conn imo and their skill sets sit well with modern fighters. Against the very elite LHWs of all time I think Greb comes up short, metaphorically and literally plus we've never seen him fight which I dont like in mythical match ups.

    Any reason for not including Bivins and Marshall?

    How many fighters do you want to have in it?
     
  11. Flea Man

    Flea Man มวยสากล

    Joined:
    Sep 7, 2008
    Messages:
    82,426
    Likes Received:
    1,478
    Nah. I'll put Hopkins in for his clear cut win over Tarver and obvious brilliance but I can't see Calzaghe making much of a splash in this tournament i.e what it is supposed to achieve which is debate.

    What kind of debate would Calzaghe vs Conteh/Qawi/Saad/Spinks/Foster/Moore provide? Because I for one can't see him beating any of those guys.

    At least you contributed, but can anyone actually remember whether anyone else has already started doing the LHW's?????
     
  12. la-califa

    la-califa Boxing Addict Full Member

    Joined:
    Jun 12, 2007
    Messages:
    6,292
    Likes Received:
    56
    If you get stuck for names, You right about his abilities, But Glen is above average. Also Mike Quarry for Consideration. Virgil Hill? Thomas Hearns. This is going to be an exciting Tourney!
     
  13. Flea Man

    Flea Man มวยสากล

    Joined:
    Sep 7, 2008
    Messages:
    82,426
    Likes Received:
    1,478
    As I have said many times before I don't think Tunney's skills are advanced enough to compete against any of these guys.

    Like Dempsey (and probably Benny Leonard) an absolute pioneer; but I feel it advanced very fast up until Ray Robinson onwards.

    Only my opinion, as I say enough people like you and I will HAVE to include them. Please re-read my original post, again thanks for all your contributions which may turn out to be a complete waste of time :good:lol:
     
  14. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

    Joined:
    Jul 22, 2004
    Messages:
    42,723
    Likes Received:
    279
    I used to say the same, I used to be very harsh on his low guard for 1 thing. But have gone back on it the more i've seen of him, he is a boxing master in many ways, wonderful movement and use of distance, very fast hands, amazing countering skills, sets traps and makes his opponent pay, great jab, good power. I'd recommend you see more of him if you haven't, he looks better against smaller opponents than he does against Dempsey.
     
  15. Flea Man

    Flea Man มวยสากล

    Joined:
    Sep 7, 2008
    Messages:
    82,426
    Likes Received:
    1,478
    Regardless, I feel that style, whilst REVOLUTIONARY, has been taken much further by LESSER ACCOMPLISHED FIGHTERS.

    I've been scorned in the past, but whilst clearly seeing what a debt we owe to these guys, those guys in todays game would be super tough club fighters.

    Obviously loads of people disagree with me, I've stated my reasons before.