can you think of anyone else?

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  1. m8te

    m8te Oh you ain't know? Full Member

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    are there any fighters that would be a shoe-in for an all time top five list in TWO different weight divisions? the only person I can think of is Sugar Ray Robinson at welterweight and middleweight. anyone else?
     
  2. Manassa

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    Some people, not me, would have Harry Greb as top five for middleweight and light heavyweight.

    The same people may also rate Henry Armstrong as a top five fighter at featherweight, lightweight and welterweight. Particularly zealous fan.

    Just as a particularly zealous Roberto Duran fan may rate him as #1 lightweight and #5 welterweight.

    Or Roy Jones as a top five middleweight and light heavyweight.

    Although there would be inconsistencies with the criteria, I think those four are the most realistic, not counting interim divisions.
     
  3. OBCboxer

    OBCboxer Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Sam Langford? Middleweight and Light Heavyweight?
     
  4. PetethePrince

    PetethePrince Slick & Redheaded Full Member

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    curly Fastest hands in the West Full Member

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  6. My2Sense

    My2Sense Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He's also the only fighter that some people might argue is #1 in those two major weight classes.
     
  7. Flea Man

    Flea Man มวยสากล Full Member

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    Duran. Arguello is definitely top at 130, depends whether he's rated highly at 126 (his age and the depth of LW historically means he wouldn't make my top five lw's to be honest, though he was still brilliant)
     
  8. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    Julio Cesar Chavez at 130 & 140.

    Undisputedly.
     
  9. teeto

    teeto Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    :deal
     
  10. teeto

    teeto Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Yeah good calls, Greb could be number one at middle, and in fairness, the resume at light heavy could easily qualify him here.

    The thing with Armstrong is that he, in my opinion was probably at his best at lightweight, but somewhat like Chavez did his greater work at a different weight. Though his body of work would certainly qualify him more so than Chavez for such honours at the 135 pound limit, i'm not quite sold.

    Duran's resume at 147 is good, he has good wins, one absolutely amazing, fantastic, brilliant win, and only one loss to one of the finest fighters ever pound for pound.

    I'm not having Jones top five for middle though, like you say, only with a drastic change in criteria could it be possible.
     
  11. klompton

    klompton Boxing Addict banned

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    greb easily deserves the call at middle and lhw
     
  12. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    He isn't undisputedly top 5 at 140 and only undisputed at 130 because it is a new division, the likes of Sugar Ray Robinson, Napoles, Ortiz were 140lbers before the division was established. Duran, Armstrong, Pep, Saddler, were 130lbers before the division was established
     
  13. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    For an obscure 1 and taking advantage of new divisions that didnt used to exist. How about James Toney at 168 and Cruser :D And Holy at Cruser and HW
     
  14. OBCboxer

    OBCboxer Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Calzaghe is the greatest at 168. Holyfield is the greatest at Cruiserweight. Toney is a nice pick though. I don't think Holy is top 5 in HW.
     
  15. teeto

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    Yeah i defo think Toney might be a nic epick, seen as though there aren't too many locks there for the spots. Same case at 168.