Hatton says he would have to promote the Khan fight if it were to happen

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by digregorio1., Jul 29, 2009.


  1. GazOC

    GazOC Guest Star for Team Taff Full Member

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    I don't see that fighting mandatories is relevent, there are good and bad mandatories, that seems like setting the goalposts where they suit the arguement.

    Hatton fought a decent level of opponent from Zoo onwards (who should probably get a mention in your post in the Benn/ Honey paragraph), including serveral natural 140lbers, belt holders and the Rings #1 in that division.

    Yes, he got comprehensively beaten by both FBP and Pac and that shows he wasn't an 'elite' fighter but to say he made a career beating up little guys is very harsh. He was a world class 140lber for 4-5 years and the champ in the division for most of that time.
     
  2. trotter

    trotter Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Dearie me, relevance?

    Both have beaten Oscar - at 154/147 respectively.

    It's not where your from it's where you're at. Anyone making the argument you've just made is being silly. Or very, very biased.
     
  3. NO MAS

    NO MAS Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think that Khan will vacate his strap at 140 and go back in with the Lightweights..:think

    It will make more sense for him to do that and wait about for a fight with Hatton at 140..... I think that Khan could pick pocket a win against Hatton....:think
     
  4. Betty Swollocks

    Betty Swollocks James 'Lights Out' Toney Full Member

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    so Hatton won't fight his big local threat at 140...prove he is infact the best in Britian at the weight...so what's new? different mooted opponent, same old story.
    Has there ever been a more farcical resume on a supposed world class fighter? That this man has been allowed to take the **** out of the sport as he has is a crying shame.
     
  5. "TKO"

    "TKO" Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Realistically, I mean, who cares? Have you seen the standard of some of the mandatory contenders out there? Very few champions do anymore. Whilst the concept of a mandatory challenger is an admirable one, promotional "favours", economic interest and sheer ranking incompetence mean that the whole system has disintegrated to the stage where it's not much short of a farce. I freely admit I can't recall who the mandatories were when Hatton first won the WBA and WBC belts, but I prefer to judge a fighter on the quality of the guys he has fought rather than whether he fought his mandatories, unless a situation arises where a fighter blatantly ducks his mandatory (ala Bowe-Lewis).

    Hatton had Tszyu who was p4p #3 and ranks up alongside the McClellan win. Curry was probably the greatest win of any British fighter in the last 50 years. Mayweather and Pacquiao were both p4p #1, there's no disgrace in losing those fights. Mentioning that they were once champions at lower weights is as irrelevant as saying James Toney was once a middleweight, Floyd was a welter and would have to cut off a leg to make lower now. Pac himself has said he will never fight below 140 again and is fighting at 145 next.

    I don't know who these smaller fighters were who Hatton's career was built on? Were the Magee? career light welter. Tackie? Long established light welter. Tszyu? Career light welter. Maussa? Ditto. Collazo? Welterweight. Mayweather? Ditto. Urango? JW and a massive one at that. Castillo? Who was forced to fight at 140 as he literally could not starve himself down to any lower anymore. malignaggi? Career JW. As these are really the wins people talk about when rating his career, anything else is just up and coming type fights.

    As for dangerous risks, I think Tszyu, PBF, Pacquiao (all of whom were favoured), Tackie, Castillo and Malignaggi (none of whom were longer than about 13/8) plus dangerous welters like Collazo might just have been a bit risky. Even Magee when he was on the up. And if all there is left is that he didn't fight a guy whose only claim to fame is an accident of birth due to not wanting to make his name for him, then I can't say it's a big issue for me in light of the above list.
     
  6. "TKO"

    "TKO" Boxing Addict Full Member

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    **** off back to the funny farm you mentally challenged tool. Nobody knows what Hatton is up to at the moment or whether he's even going to fight again. But if he does then I'm sure it will be somebody who didn't get ironed out inside a minute by a complete unknown 12 months or so ago. Hey I know what why doesn't Pac fight Dennis Laurente to prove he's the best in the Phillipines? Why doesn't Cotto face Henry Bruseles, prove he's the best in Puerto Rico? Oh I know because they're facing each other in a mega fight and have fought Marquez, Barrera, Morales, Hatton, Lledwaba, Mosley, Morgarito, Quintana etc... between them. Therefore, to anybody outside those islands the fights are relatively insignificant. Though I'm sure somewhere in General Dos Santos City or Caguas there's a "Batty Swollocks" coming out with exactly that spiel and being pitied as a drooling ****** by the rest of the world!
     
  7. Jeff Young

    Jeff Young Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Hatton and Calzaghe has carried british boxing internationally the past decade.....what the **** has amir khan done on the international stage at this point to get a shot at hatton? won the wba strap from kotelnik...

    hatton has givin a lot to british boxing, let alone boxing as awhole....

    hatton critics will say well he "ducked witter" or "he is avoiding khan because he doenst want to work with franks warren".....what the hell has witter and khan done to deserve a hatton fight? jack ****...

    khan and witter at this point dont deserve to be in the same arena as hatton, let alone the same ring...its that simple...
     
  8. Betty Swollocks

    Betty Swollocks James 'Lights Out' Toney Full Member

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    [quote="TKO";4594220]**** off back to the funny farm you mentally challenged tool. Nobody knows what Hatton is up to at the moment or whether he's even going to fight again. But if he does then I'm sure it will be somebody who didn't get ironed out inside a minute by a complete unknown 12 months or so ago. Hey I know what why doesn't Pac fight Dennis Laurente to prove he's the best in the Phillipines? Why doesn't Cotto face Henry Bruseles, prove he's the best in Puerto Rico? Oh I know because they're facing each other in a mega fight and have fought Marquez, Barrera, Morales, Hatton, Lledwaba, Mosley, Morgarito, Quintana etc... between them. Therefore, to anybody outside those islands the fights are relatively insignificant. Though I'm sure somewhere in General Dos Santos City or Caguas there's a "Batty Swollocks" coming out with exactly that spiel and being pitied as a drooling ****** by the rest of the world![/quote]

    wind your neck in.
    Hatton was still fighting handpicked turkeys like Steven Smith, Pedersen and Vilches for the WBU...what 25, 30 fights in? Even his best wins now are over accidental beltholders and washed up old men. Only a deluded sackswinger such as yourself can't see the gaping holes in his record.
    A total sham of a career, unparalelled amongst supposed world class fighters.
     
  9. trotter

    trotter Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Haha here he is

    Betty Swollocks - 'The troll's troll'
     
  10. Betty Swollocks

    Betty Swollocks James 'Lights Out' Toney Full Member

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    i'm voicing my opinion....and there are plenty who agree with me. Hardly trolling.
    You didn't have cash tied up in the Bernie Madoff swindle too, did you?
     
  11. Beeston Brawler

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  12. 'Ben'

    'Ben' Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He wasn't nearly as bad as German fighters such as Sven Ottke or Felix Strum though, lets get that right though!
     
  13. Aztec God

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    Hatton was spineless not to fight Witter during his WBU title fight defence days a rival from only a few miles across town when he was happy to fight his great domestic rival Stephen Smith !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
  14. "TKO"

    "TKO" Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Nobody said his record was perfect. It's just pretty good and one he can be proud of. He ranks among the top British fighters of my generation which is the last 20 years or so. Two p4p fighters and 6-7 other top 10 rated fighters is pretty good by anyone's standard. On talent and resume there's only Lewis and Calzaghe who spring to mind as having a strong claim to be higher during that period. Probably Benn as well, but his best was probably before that time frame. I'd say that's a pretty damn good career by world class standards. To put it into context which of the current world class 140lbers have a better resume?

    Yeah, he wasted a bit too much time between 2003-05 in marking time fights, but hell this is not a new thing in British boxing. Look at Joe Calzaghe's 29th fight v Rick Thornberry (average at best). Clinton Woods spent fighters 28-32 taking on Sam Leuii, Terry Ford, John Lennox Lewis and Juan Nelongo. There's Scott Harrison with Kebede, Abelyan and Estrada. Witter was fighting Lucky Sambo, Laatekwie Hammon and Fred Kinuthia at the same point. Most of the top British fighters have had a spell during their career where they've hit "going nowhere" mode. But I forget, it's only a problem with Hatton because he has the cheek to be popular and earn good money for fighting.
     
  15. "TKO"

    "TKO" Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Who ****ing cares let's be honest. These guys were rivals in Witter's head only. If Witter had gone out of his way to make it happen, i.e. made himself marketable and put in a proper, reasonable written offer rather than simply making smoke and mirrors gestures to the press it might have happened. Let us not forget it was Hatton who turned up ringside to Witter's fight when they had that televised discussion. Once Hatton beat Tszyu he was way above Witter;s level and did not want to make the name of a guy he viewed as a nob head. And bearing in mind his regular trips to the states to take on top ten and p4p fighters while Witter mainly fought hand picked opponents in his own back yard, the only people who give a stuff (or claim to) about this fight are Witter fans or (more prevalently) Hatton haters looking for some mud to sling.