Hatton says he would have to promote the Khan fight if it were to happen

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by digregorio1., Jul 29, 2009.


  1. Aztec God

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    Stephen Smith didnt have to make himself marketable though

    No did Tony Pep

    No that blown up Swedish Super Featherweight who no-one had ever heard of

    Why did different rules apply to Junior Witter to get fight and a shot at Hattons WBU belt?
     
  2. Jeff Young

    Jeff Young Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    people that like to hammer hatton about witter need to remember witter was never vocal about hatton till after hatton had become a star....i always believed witter was looking for a payday off hatton....and its clear, when you look at the timetable of events...
     
  3. scurlaruntings

    scurlaruntings ESB 2002 Club Full Member

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    To be honest theres no diffrence. Both got paid handsome fee's for hand picking their opponents. Only diffrence is Sven was incredibly boring to watch unless he was KO'ing Mundine.
     
  4. "TKO"

    "TKO" Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It's this simple. When you are a fighter on your way up, the promoter generally chooses the opponents and will do so to give his fighter the best possible learning curve. If Witter wishes to make himself stand out as an opponent of choice then he needs to do something to actually make the fight happen. If you are asking would he have been a better opponent than some of the fighter on Hatton's record during that period then with hindsight he certainly would. However, you could make that same accusation with anyone. Any of about fifty fighters would have been better than the list Witter himself took on in the five years between Judah and Ndou.

    If a fighter wants to make himself the opponent of choice then he has to do something to make the fight happen. At least put in an offer rather than just talking to the papers. Otherwise, the other fighter just continues on his merry way. As was the case with Hatton and as was the case witih Witter himself. As was the case with Thaxton to Khan and Froch to Calzaghe.
     
  5. KCD

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    Hatton is and was an overachiever imo, im not denying this.

    What i am saying is for his two losses against Pacman and Mayweather he had two equally good victories against Tszyu and Castillo.

    Yes i know both had seen better days but he beat them in good style, just what you want from a fighter fighting aged greats.

    And as to his fights with Floyd and Pac, what if he hadnt fought them? People would be saying he didnt ever intend to fight the best.

    As ive said i think Hatton beats Witter 9 times out of 10 imo.

    And for every person to say Hatton avoided, was scared of Witter etc i will mention 3 names:-

    Tszyu (number 1 LWW at the time, top 3 P4P)

    Mayweather (number 1 LM at the time, top p4p)

    Pacman (number 1 at LW at the time, top p4p)

    If Hatton was so afraid of the challenge of Witter, why the hell would he even consider fighting these guys?
     
  6. KCD

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    So you are saying Witter has a better resume?

    Just as you yourself see Witter as this all time great Light Welter?
     
  7. Darni187

    Darni187 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Hatton is a very smart guy, he fought the P4P best, but he didn’t fight Witter a local fighter, because if Witter beat him he would not be able to live with it, but if he lost to P4P best fighters which he did and both fights were one sided he could tell himself and the world 'I lost to the P4P best', 'I gave it my best shot'. Hatton in my opinion was never good enough to fight Mayweather and Pacman, but money talks and Hatton's fanbase and PPV numbers are good plus both Mayweather and Pacman fought it's a very winnable fight with a great payday.

    I like Hatton he is a nice guy and I feel he should retire a very very rich man.
     
  8. Aztec God

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    Thats the truth of the matter right there


    £400,000 for a routine defence of his WBU title at the Manchester Nynex Arena against any bum

    £400,000 to defend against Witter would be the same finicial reward but the risk of a humilating and bitter loss that could have ****ed up his whole lucarative future

    £10,000,000 to fight Mayweather and Pacman in Las Vegas for the World titles - worth the risk - and the pain of losing


    THIS IS THE TRUTH OF THE MATTER

    so what it all boils down to is this

    WITTER WAS CONFIDENT OF BEATING HATTON - HAD NOTHING TO LOSE AND EVERYTHING TO GAIN

    HATTON HAD DOUBTS IN HIS HEAD THAT THERE WAS A REAL DANGER OF LOSING TO WITTER FOR NO GREATER REWARD THAN A ROUTINE FIGHT

    SO HATTON DUCKED WITTER
     
  9. Betty Swollocks

    Betty Swollocks James 'Lights Out' Toney Full Member

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    you're getting warm, but it hardly takes a 'very smart guy' to pull that off. Infact it takes a dishonest and manipulative man more than anything. Most wouldn't use the sport like that, as a vehicle to fraudulently enrich themselves. The guy was/is one big farce.
     
  10. Aztec God

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    In relation to my above post

    This is why I feel Hatton is a bit of a fraud

    Too worried about losing - got to keep the smoke and mirrors of that carefully built up undefeated record which he had up until the Mayweather fight

    The likes of Nigel Benn didnt duck Michael Watson at Commonwealth level

    Hattons biggest British rival was Witter - and he ducked it - **** house
     
  11. "TKO"

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    More lies (do like the font but however much you repeat that the moon is made of cheese doesn't make it any more credible). If Witter wanted the fight so much he should have done something to make it, rather than gobbing off to the press trying to get some headlines. Your post above is sheer conjecture and assumptions and has no factual basis. We can but judge on the facts and those are than Hatton was willing to leave his comfort zone, mix it with the best and take on risky fights which weren't that beneficial to him (Collazo, Malignaggi). We never saw any of that appetite from Witter. His epitaph will probably be "never fought Ricky Hatton".

    Plus, we could easily say the same about him. Offers were on the table for Eamonn Magee and Ajose Olusegun. Big domestic matchups, surely what's good for the goose and all that...
     
  12. "TKO"

    "TKO" Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You probably also believe the moon is made of cheese, the FBI shot John Lennon and Elvis and Lord Lucan are alive and working in Harry Ramsden's fish and chip shop in Blackpoo!
     
  13. Aztec God

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    Hatton and Witter we both promoted by Warren when the demand for this fight was ripe

    It should have been easily made

    But Warren probaly wanted Hatton to duck Witter just as much as Hatton himself did

    The only lies being told was that

    "Its been written in the contract - Ricky will fight Junior in his next few fights"
     
  14. 'Ben'

    'Ben' Boxing Addict Full Member

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    What about the fact that Hatton actually went abroad to fight the very best and what about the fact that Hatton never got any of them very very wrong decisions for himself? Even the Collazo fight was in the US.... I actually though he just about won, and I;m not Hatton's greatest fan...look back earlier in the thread if you don't beleive me.
     
  15. "TKO"

    "TKO" Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Smoke and mirrors is KOing 14 straight non-top-50 fighters and fooling those who see what they want to see into thinking it means something. Now that is a carefully built up record. Smoke and mirrors is repeating time after time to the papers that you are somebody's rival, even though that person doesn't give a stuff about you. Smoke and mirrors is claiming that someone is "ducking" you when you never do anything to make the fight happen. Smoke and mirrors is claiming that a fight should happen because both guys are British and then welching on fights with other highly rated Brits. Smoke and mirrors is feigning outrage when another fighter comes back from a loss against a lower top-10 rated opponent then coming back from your own loss against a guy who wouldn't crack the top 100.

    Smoke and Mirrors is not racking up a decent record involving 4-5 top 20 fighters, winning a title against a p4p top 5 fighter, unifying in your first defence, winning a belt at a higher weight, beating another p4p fighter than moving up again to challenge the p4p #1 all the time fighting away from your home turf comfort zone. Or following that by stepping up to face another #1 contender and p4p #1. Bottom line when you look at both fighters' careers its clear who was the one to go out of his way to make the big fights happen and who was happy sat in their comfort zone.