Roach: The key to beating Mayweather is to literally beat him up.

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  1. Bazooka

    Bazooka Pimp C Wants 2 Be Me Full Member

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    Please Floyd had to work his ass off to knock out Hatton who came right at him, Manny is light years better than Ricky and its obvious. you say Floyd will do this Floyd will do that bottom line is Shut the **** up until your Floyd boy actually takes some ****ing fights that mean something as of now he is still cherry picking.
     
  2. dodong

    dodong >>PACQUIAO Full Member

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    Oscar won the rounds where he was jabbing and could've eneded up with the W if he just continued it and then come in with his hooks. Roach told him that, Hopkins on the outside was also screaming for it.
     
  3. Biggame

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    Cherry Picking?

    Ans these,...

    Hoya,...Cherry Picking?

    Hatton,...Cherry Picking?

    Marquez,...Cherry Picking?

    If Manny were to fight Marquez again, would that be Cherry Picking?

    Finally,..if Floyd & Manny fight will that be Cherry Picking on Floyds or Manny's behalf?

    I'll wait!!!
     
  4. Bazooka

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    Oscar of course it was a money fight Oscar was fading no doubt.

    Hatton well why come out of retirement for that when have unfinished business against the rest of the top welters of which you never fought.

    Marquez perhaps so I mean Marquez is comming up two weight classes to fight him and near the end of his career and has fought and went to hell and back with Manny Pacquiao.

    if Floyd fights Manny I will look at this as Cherry picking on Mannys part:yep
     
  5. David_TheMan

    David_TheMan ESB Sage Full Member

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    Floyd fights differently than Manny, fact is Floyd knocked Hatton out with an arm punch moving backwards, which is far more difficult that just slugging it out and landing first on an opponent that is lunging in with his hands down and chin sticking out.

    You call Floyd a cherry picker, what do you call Manny fighting D. Diaz then going on about how he is the 135 champ, while you have Casamayor, Juan Diaz, Nate Campbell, and JMM in the division. How about fighting Oscar De La Hoya at 147, a weight Oscar hadn't made in over 10 years. What about fighting a Hatton who was already KO'd by PBF and KO'd by Juan Lazcano if the fight was refed in the US. Now he wants to fight a WW belt holder for his title at a catchweight that he originally wanted to be at 142, even though 2 fights ago he was having no problem making weight at 147.

    Manny is the biggest cherry picker of them all.
     
  6. Biggame

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    Oscar was a belt holder at 154lbs & Floyd gave all concessions!

    Hatton was an undefeated fighter whom wasn't interested in Floyd at 140lbs so he went for the money at 147lbs and got stopped!

    Marquez is the #2 and in some ppl's eyes #1 p4p fighter in the world! Also a fighter who many believe beat Manny both times! A fighter who elevated himself since over time winning titles against the best in the class he's fought him!

    If Manny is Cherry picking, he will cherry pick the wrong fighter!!

    I asked this cause that's puts 3 common foes 2 of whom Manny fought afterwards, & one which Floyd will be fighting, but also a fighter who is now #2 p4p! If Floyd goes onto fight Manny next he would've unretired & fought the #2 & #1 fighter back to back! Lets not forget,..alot of ppl give JMM & Pac great chances to win so theses fights by far are not cherry picking, and both fighters are on top of there game rt now!
     
  7. boxsensei

    boxsensei Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Good Post!
     
  8. dodong

    dodong >>PACQUIAO Full Member

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    BS!

    D. Diaz was a tuneup for the bigger fights on higher weights, it was Oscar who cherrypicked and was a 2 to 1 fav., and Hatton was the best at 140.
     
  9. pit

    pit Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :lol: I guess you have not seen floyd inside game, He loves fighting south paw up close its manny who does not have a inside game.
     
  10. 8count

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    did roach really say this?

    people get worked up here, you know. We don't want anyone getting a heart attack while typing in front of a computer.
     
  11. Ech110

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    this fight is a hard call. the one definite thing is, that styles make fights. Pac's bum rush style vs PBF counter puncher style will, no doubt, make one hell of an action packed fight imo. I for one will be a happy mofo if this fight comes to pass. the entire boxing world will be!
     
  12. David_TheMan

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    Live in your own world *******.

    D. Diaz was the champ who Pac targeted at 135, he wasn't a tune up fight, he was the easiest way Pac could build his "legend" as a 5 weight champ, at the time. He could have fought better comp, but that would have required a challenge and he was just coming off the bogus gift win over JMM.

    It was Manny and Roach who called out Oscar at 147, not Oscar, not the otherway around. If I remember correctly, Oscar was getting challenges from a lot of fighters after Mayweather pulled out.

    As for Hatton, at 140 he never fought anyone of note to make the case he was the best fighter there. If you want I'll put up the records of Randall Bailey, Timothy Bradley, Junior Witter, Kendall Holt, and Ricardo Torres, to show you why they all have far better resumes than Hatton at 140. Lets not also forget all the champs Hatton ducked in the division, such as Cotto and Mayweather. Hell he could have fought Gatti at 140 as well, he had a title there. Instead he chose the likes of Maussa, Urango, and the shot to hell Castillo, oh and juan lazcano. LOL. Lets also not forget the fact that for all intents and purpose Juan Lazcano KO'd the chump after over a year of not fighting and coming up in weight. LOL. Hatton was a name, not a significant accomplishment.
     
  13. Jbuz

    Jbuz Belt folder Full Member

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    :rofl

    Yes, knocking someone out with a flush left hook after they've been worn down gradually for 10 rounds is FAR more impressive than knocking someone out cold in the second round. The fighter you speak of what "lunging in with his hands down and chin sticking out" in both fights.

    Manny a cherry-picker? Don't even try.
     
  14. Farmboxer

    Farmboxer VIP Member Full Member

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    Roach has a good point, which is a good reason Void refused to fight Pac.
     
  15. general

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    Roach is probably correct....void is void