Why Haye might lose to Valuev

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  1. Cachibatches

    Cachibatches Boxing Junkie banned

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    If Valuev has anything left, he will dominate Haye.
     
  2. Rock0052

    Rock0052 Loyal Member Full Member

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    This is going to be one interesting fight, though- I can see a good case for either man winning. The only question I have is whether they're going to take the slam-dunk marketing angle of "David vs Goliath" or come up with something more creative.
     
  3. JohnAkiBoa

    JohnAkiBoa Well-Known Member Full Member

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    :lol: Okay enough for Haye Bashing...

    Haye is gonna fu%&ing DOMINATE that Big, slow Stiff. I think David gonna Hurt Valuev at early rounds and make Valuev fighting very, very Cautious.

    Watch Haye's counter right Hand. He has very smooth move to duck punch to side and then counter with Right it. Damn Haye will bang that Caveman all night with it.:good

    valuev Has decent Jab with Looong reach but it is too slow IMO Haye will slip it away and makes Valuev pay it big time.

    Haye is NOT gonna lose to that man!:deal
     
  4. Hellion

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    I'm going to be very interested and curious as to what'll occur between Haye and Valuev.
    Throughout his career Haye has fought almost out of a crouch. Now he's going to be facing the tallest champion out there. Even taking Valuevs obvious limitations into account, it's tricky to see how that style is going to lead to anything but disaster for Haye, especially if you combine it with his average footwork.

    Haye is going to need a RADICAL change in tactics and with his utter lack of activity over the last year a sudden change in career habits is going to be tough.
     
  5. madballster

    madballster Loyal Member Full Member

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    Correct. Haye can fight like from a low, crouching position against fighters his own height or shorter. Not against a guy a foot taller than him.

    Haye has to get on the inside no matter what. That's where Valuev has to try and grab him like King Kong grabbed people and bit their heads off. He literally has to squeeze him into submission. After half an hour of being choked like that Haye will be nothing more than a punching ball.

    Haye can slip the punches, but he can't slip Valuev's hug. Impossible to escape.
     
  6. JohnAkiBoa

    JohnAkiBoa Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Well that is the only thing too what im worried about is Haye's footwork. That bothers me:think
     
  7. jc

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    A man that heavy is always gona hit hard, Haye is vunreble around the chin area and could get knocked out. However im picking skill over size im picky a Haye win via tKO.
     
  8. Detroit

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  9. madballster

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    Haye's only chance is winning by decision, like Chagaev. He won't TKO Valuev. In fact, the risk is he might gas and overly exhaust himself frantically trying to KO Valuev.

    IMO, it would be the wrong strategy. If a KO happens, great. But Haye shouldn't press for it.
     
  10. joe the great

    joe the great Boxing Addict Full Member

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    How did Valuev score a decision over Sergei? Sergei didn't even win a round. I think this is going to be an interesting fight.
     
  11. ramalinga

    ramalinga Well-Known Member Full Member

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    It's all possible of course, but with someone who fought twice in the last two years and never smoothed out his own weaknesses, nothing is guaranteed. If Haye fights Valuev as sloppy as he fought Barrett, he could easily lose. That was his last fight, can he improve all that much just in training? Maybe, maybe not.
     
  12. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    Haye has a paper mache Chin. I think Valuev is going to KO him with a Jab in the later rounds when Haye is tired because his stamina is garbage also like his Chin.
     
  13. Rangersfan1982

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    Haye wont gas. He's a far different fighter than he was in the Thomson fight. The folk that say he isn't , are idiots. His speed will be to much for Valuev. UD for Haye.
     
  14. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    **** man Haye was breathing like an asthmatic in the Barrett fight and it only went 5 rounds.
     
  15. Rangersfan1982

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    Nonsense.