Will RJJ teach Anderson Silva a boxing lesson, or will Silva embarrass him?

I say the MMA community will suffer if the best mixed martial artist in the world is taken a part by a shot Roy Jones Jr. By suffer, I don't mean on a grand scale, but morale will be low and MMA and UFC specifically will not benefit. Silva will lose his aura of invincibility.

I think someone else pretty much summed it up. A boxer has a punchers chance of beating the best MMA fighter in the world, even in MMA rules. However, throw in any mixed martial artists of any skill level in with the best Boxer in the world, and have them fight it out under Queensbury rules? The result is inevitable.

As I say, I watch UFC whenever the events are aired. I have been doing this for quite a few years now. I'm not ignorant towards the sport. I just don't think it can hold a candle to Boxing, and what's with all of the comparisons? We see them everyday in the MMA world. Dana White talking crap, etc.

 

^ see what I said earlier in the thread, everyone?

Again, as I've already explained. In terms of from professionals in either sport criticizing the ART and worth of the other sport. Boxing gives MMA a LOT more stick than the reverse (boxers & promoters -- though most boxers have cooled that as they are becoming more educated).

The **** flying from MMA to Boxing is not from fighters (as you said, and I said before, fighters are fans + students of the sweet science ) and not from most EDUCATED fans... but rather from IDIOTS, almost all of them being 'casual' fans who don't know much about MMA past what they see while having beer + pizza with their friends on a UFC PPV night!... nevermind boxing -- which they know NOTHING about.


as for MMA fighters calling out boxers.
As I've already said. The only true 'call-out' is Anderson Silva & what y'all don't realize is that he hasn't talked ANY trash... his idol growing up was Roy Jones Jr & he always said he wanted to be the Roy Jones of MMA. He told Roy he loves him, respects & admires him... and would be honoured to meet him in a boxing ring. and you have to remember: roy, took this to be a serious challenge.. i.e. something he would consider doing! (that's the level to which Roy is now a former of his former Sugar-self!).

the other 'call-outs' to box, are COMPLETELY for pay-days // recognition.

Diaz never said he would beat Pavlik or Taylor. He said he'd love to face them to show that MMA guys are athletes too & he feels he's better conditioned than both (as I already told you he said). And guess what? He probably IS better conditioned than either Pavlik or Jermain Taylor!

Andrei Arlovski - never called anyone out.
And it was FREDDIE ****in' ROACH who talked of him possibly fighting the big-boys of today's rotten heavyweight division. (naming Valuev & indeed a Klitschko once iirc). That's how much Freddie rated the potential for moulding Andrei (but as i've already said: he has a **** chin -- he couldn't take good shots at cruiserweight... nevermind heavyweight!)

 

I thought all MMA fans were casual? :huh

 

only idiots on each side & overzealous, deluded boxing promoters can either benefit or be harmed by this.

As educated fans on both sides know what the result should & will be, barring a flash knockdown / lucky horseshoe up Anderson's ass!

Educated fans neither benefit nor lose out ****.. as they should have called it from the start.. from when it was rumoured!

And anyone acting like it is a 'triumph' for the sport of boxing over the sport of MMA needs a slap too! It's a triumph for Roy over someone who is not even as good as a B-level boxer... or even a C-level dude! That's all.


The only thing which would back-up what some overzealous people who hate on MMA say, would be for a boxer to get in a ring... fight MMA rules.. and show that "MMA sucks" and has "no technique"... by knocking out a UFC Champ & hence 'proving' that boxing alone is enough. (though this would never happen. unless ofcourse we rewind 3+ yrs ago when the UFC heavyweight division SUCKED... and tim sylvia -- a very poor MMA-striker & MMA-boxer -- happened to be heavyweight champion).

When Steve Bunce suggested Enzo could enjoy similar success to Mercer in MMA... even Enzo Macarinelli commented that it's different as Sylvia was more of a striker... & not really a well-rounded mixed martial artist! (not to mention the fact that Sylvia's chin is almost as bad as Arlovski's!).

 

Like I said, you have your 'casual' fans in boxing who will buy the biggest PPV events but still don't really know **** about boxing.

Most of the ppl who go to UFC events are like that! Screaming for blood n **** & booing when it goes to the ground. These are people who don't know **** about MMA & for them MMA has always = UFC only.

It's funny, whenever a so-called 'hardcore' fan goes to a UFC.. they always come back reporting how idiotic many of the ppl sat around them were!

And indeed a lot of the ppl who buy the PPVs are similarly 'casual'.



What I'm saying is, like in Boxing -- you have a HUGE community of educated 'hardcore' fans... the equivalent to which you would find fans of the sport of boxing to be on a site like eastside.

 

I didn't even know it was possible to care about a sport like MMA. I thought everybody just watched it to see a brutal knockout. Only conclusion I can come to when the crowd are always booing if there is modest action, and how Dana White offers pay bonuses for a knockout of the night and fight of the night. Crazy.

 

and also submission of the night.



it's about encouraging the fighters to go for the finish.

 

It's kinda like those people who call themselves boxing fans. Yet complain that the Klits or PBF fights are boring.

I don't call these people boxing fans, I call them fans of action and of violence. They may as well go watch monster trucks or pro wrestling.

Similarly, a huge number of people think they are MMA fans, but only want to see a brutal knockout. They are not MMA fans. They are fans of violence and of action.

 

Hey! Show some respect for the mighty talented mma fighter. Ever seen him fight? I love him. Anyway, Jones would school and humiliate him badly.

 

Exactly:thumbsup

 

:huh

Have you been living under a rock for the past 5 yrs ?

 

They are not.

An MMA fighter would win 8/10 in a no holds barred fight vs a boxer, I like both boxing & MMA, I understand both, a boxer has a punchers chance, thats it, an MMA fighter has multiple ways to win, the odds are in his favour without doubt.

 

Yes, Royce 1st fight in UFC 1

WTF was Jimmerson all about, he came out wearing 1 boxing glove, Royce gave him a double leg takedown, mounted him & Jimmerson tapped thru frustration of not being able to get up, Royce hadnt even applied a submission yet :-(

When it was style vs style... BJJ came out on top & boxing did the worst, that was the days with no rules (except no eye gouging & biting)

RJJ v Royce would be interesting but Id favour Royce by submission TBH.

 

Understatement.

Nog is without doubt the greatest HWT in MMA history outside of Fedor & only Fedor.

His boxing was good but it was his BJJ, heart & durability that made him special, no doubt.
His BJJ is the best BJJ I have ever seen to work effectively in an MMA fight.