is Kostya Tszyu a top 5 Light/junior welterweight all time?

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  1. trlp1712

    trlp1712 Member Full Member

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    after all, he unified the division for the first time in 30 years.. i think that's sick... what do you think?

    and please, don't come with some "he lost to Hatton so he's a bum"... the Australian was a bit older and plus, Hatton is a really good fighter... he was willing to fight Floyd while gaining weight and a lose to Pacqiao isn't really putting you into bum status
     
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  2. freddy-wak

    freddy-wak M O D E R A T O R Full Member

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    **** no...
     
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  3. TFFP

    TFFP The Eskimo

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    Probably, its not the strongest division historically so on resume at 140lbs almost certainly.

    If you add in all the fighters that could have fought there on a H2H basis he wouldn't be anywhere near.
     
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  4. VanillaKilla

    VanillaKilla Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yea probobly 3-5. 3 if your a big fan. 5 if your a hater. Their hasnt been alot of great talent at 140. Ofcourse pyror was better, that argentinian guy, and chavez were def better. I guess i have him at 4 :good
     
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  5. JMotrain

    JMotrain Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yes for sure.
     
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  6. san rafael

    san rafael 0.00% lemming Full Member

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    Larry Merchant has spoken in those terms.
     
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  7. Asterion

    Asterion Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    #2-4.
     
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  8. mckay_89

    mckay_89 Haw you! Full Member

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    Achievement wise hes there without a shadow of a doubt, however on a H2H basis against fighters who've stopped by at 140 for a few fights and won titles he'd rank below guys like Whitaker, Oscar and PBF for me.
     
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  9. bluebird

    bluebird Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Definitely top 5.

    Pryor, Tszyu, Chavez...
     
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  10. rccwilliams

    rccwilliams Sippin' on some sizzurp Full Member

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    Top 20.

    Top 5 is way to generous.
     
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  11. VanillaKilla

    VanillaKilla Boxing Addict Full Member

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    top 20???

    Name me 15 guys better then tszyu at jr welter.
     
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  12. Barney

    Barney Guest

    No. He quit in the ring and disgraced himself. I did not feel he needed to quit when he did. I would characterize him as an opportunist. When the going got tough, he left.

    Great boxers rarely quit.
     
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  13. trlp1712

    trlp1712 Member Full Member

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    :huh
     
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  14. VanillaKilla

    VanillaKilla Boxing Addict Full Member

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    says the great warrior whos been in plenty back and forth wars in the ring :lol:

    Seriously, i hate when keyboard warriors call out great men....Whatever helps you feel tough i guess :-(
     
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  15. Locke

    Locke Active Member Full Member

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    Woulda coulda shoulda. I'd rank only Chavez above him as a junior WW.
     
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