Bradley vs. Campbell / Alexander vs. Witter

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  1. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    the thing is, yes they had cleared the blood away, but the position it was in, the first jab that landed would have had it spurting straight into his corneas. the cutman can only do one minute's worth of work at a time...he can't follow him around with a q-tip for the next three minutes while the man's doing his own work.

    he was unable to continue due to a debilitating injury (you have to be able to see...nobody calls Izzy a quitter for backing out of a fight where he couldn't breathe, and this is on the same level) to his eyebrow that wasn't caused by a legal punch. he's a seasoned pro and a student of the game - he intuitively knew that no matter what happened between rounds to pretty him up cosmetically, this was a cut that was going to have blinding hot liquid boiling his peepers for the rest of the night. he chose not to fight under those circumstances. he was disgusted with the ref for not even acknowledging the butt during the round, before Bradley jumped on him. if Nate was a quitter he'd have taken a knee or said "no mas" when Tim was going berserk on him after the initial complaint to the ref. he finished the round, and on the walk back to the corner he felt blood flowing into his eye. best cutman in the world with an industrial Costco's size jar of vaseline can't keep a cut that deep, in that spot, from getting opened up by the next solid jab that lands. Nate knew the score, and he said "OK. Mulligan. Next time".
     
  2. eze

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    He also talked of not being able to see, then seeing spots currently. A sign of a detached retina. The also stated the doctor said there was blood behind the eye. ?
     
  3. IntentionalButt

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    I think the next week will be interesting.

    More details coming out...

    WBO's statements...

    War of words between Shaw and King in the press...
     
  4. san rafael

    san rafael 0.00% lemming Full Member

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    That's an important point you make about the missed call by the ref. That had to be extremely frustrating. Still, in actuality the cut wasn't all that bad in final summation, but you're right. The cut handicapped Campbell unfairly, and when he first reacted to it he didn't know how bad it was - him choosing to end it I can't see my way around though. Can't believe he did that..
     
  5. konaman

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    Thats a fairly grand spin on the events on Campbells part. He essentially refused to continue fighting because he was doing very poorly, and had a slim possible escape route, one which HAD NOT been acknowledged by the ref (huge judgement error from Campbell). The only person not happy for Campbell to continue was Campbell himself.
     
  6. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Well, Nate exercised professional judgment (assuming that it would be shared by the official). Has nothing to do with his heart as a fighter, IMO. This to me, wasn't about wanting to "get out of a beating" going by body language and behavior between the bells. He was begging Bradley to bring it on all the way down the stretch in that round.

    It was a stupid risk. I agree with that. But as Bernstein said, "Technically he has a case. He's right".

    It's not about rewarding him for seeking the NC, it's about not rewarding the ref for having less professional judgment and awareness of the situation than the fighter when it's his job to have far, far more of both.
     
  7. eze

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    Why did the ref let the fight go on after a head butt? He said he saw it.
     
  8. IntentionalButt

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    He thought the cut was caused by a punch that landed five seconds later..

    "At the time of the butt there was no blood yet, and then I saw the blood after there had been a punch...I have to go based on the last thing that I saw..."

    ^ more or less his verbatim
     
  9. san rafael

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    I agree. Although the ref has all the power.

    The ref ****ed up, but we get that alot in this game, and Nate, of all people, should know better.
     
  10. eze

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    That's not a reason to not check campbell. he stopped it each time prior for minor head butts. He lets this one go because he saw the head butt but thought it was a punch that caused the cut?

    Come on..
     
  11. san rafael

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    It happened fast. Before the ref could even come over to Campbell's corner Nate was screaming for the fight to be stopped and moaning about how he couldn't see.
     
  12. IntentionalButt

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    If this doesn't get overturned it's an even dumber "self defeat" than Peden I.
     
  13. san rafael

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    As I said; Campbell was already hard at work trying to have the fight stopped before the ref even made it over there. Nate didn't even give his cornerman enough time to look at the cut or clear the blood before he started screaming he couldn't see.
     
  14. san rafael

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    I'm with you on that.
     
  15. eze

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    First.

    The butt happened very early in the round. The ref should of stopped it to check Campbell. he did it every time before that with the head butts but he lets this one continue after admitting he clearly saw it.

    He should of stopped the action. he ****ed up.