ARE YOU SHITTING ME!!! Look i aint one of those guys who says Ali walked on water and is the greatest of all time.... but Leornard ahead of Ali!!! Do me a favour! Ray was great (an absolute *****) but a great fighter! However his cowardly avoidance of Marv in his prime must go down as the greatest weasel moment in boxing history. He didnt want Marv in his prime and also was never going to hang around to see just how good that kid 'The Lone Star Cobra' was!!!
Hands up ! I was a bit off chronologically,but if you care to study Charles' record,you'll see that at one point he had several fights around the 175 lb mark. Archie Moore was one of his opponents.
I personally think they're equally as good as each other. I'd like to go into more depth about it but I just can't say one is better than the other....
Ali for sure. leonard, while having an outstanding resume, has some room for debate, like the hagler fight, leonard-hearns 2. ali biggest wins, liston, frazier, he won with no debate
Can we keep this debate adult ? I like a passionate arguement as much as anyone,but can we keep puerile insults out of it ?
Ray Leonard was the man for a time, in his prime, but Muhammad Ali fought in the Golden Era of Heavyweights and beat everyone.Ray loses out to Muhammad on this one.And Muhammad did it over two decades.
Leonard by a mile for me. I don't think it's fair to compare heavyweight greats to welterweight ones. they are in a different class skill-wise
And Marv didnt want Spinks in his prime. Everybody has to (and for the most part did) come to Marv. You know, its funny with Leonard and the way you people view him: He either waited guys out or he fought them too soon. In the case of Hearns, well, Hearns was still green. Even thogh Leonard put that fight off a year and get this: was accused of ducking him at the time. So which is it? Leonard's also a ***** for utilizing his superior hand speed, foot speed, reach, boxing ability in the second Duran fight. Yup, a coward, even though you just saw him fight Duran flat footed for 15 rounds. Benitez, that 38-0 defensive mastermind, lineal champ... Uhh, he didnt train. All that stuff. Kalule, that 36-0 lineal champ @ 154... I honestly havent heard what sorry ass excuse has been conjured up. 22 Months, 3 Hall Famers and a fourth lineal title holder, combined record @ the time he fought them: 177-1-1. Leonard is one calculating ****. Thats why he was never any promoters ***** and made it out the game with his health, wealth and legendary status. Decades later people are still crying about it. You Cannot Knock The Hustle.