Ali - Norton II 1 10-9 2 10-9 3 10-9 4 9-10 5 9-10 6 9-10 7 9-10 8 9-10 9 9-10 10 9-10 11 9-10 12 10-9 112-116 Norton Would you consider it a robbery? Anybody had Ali winning? There were some close rounds (2, 3 to Ali and 6, 10, 11 to Norton) but I think that giving the win to Ali is very generous other cards: Referee: Dick Young 7-5 Judge: John Thomas 6-5 Judge: George Latka 5-6 NABF Heavyweight Title (1st defense of Norton) Weights: Norton 205 lbs, Ali 212 lbs Unofficial AP scorecard - 6-5 Norton Unofficial UPI scorecard - 9-2 Ali Unofficial LB Independent scorecard - 8-4 Ali Unofficial Pasadena Star-News scorecard (2 reporters covering fight) - 7-5 Norton and 7-5 Ali Unofficial ringside poll of sportswriters - 8 scored it for Ali, 6 scored it for Norton and 1 scored it even
I still feel Ali won this one. It was the last round that decided the fight,in fact this was my favourite bout in the trilogy. Both guys were on top form and firing on all cylinders. Ali may have not been at his all time best,but he was at his 70's best. IMO. The same applies to Quarry 2 Frazier 2 and the George Foreman fight. Ken Norton proved that he had definitely arrived.
Even if I would give close rounds 10 and 11 to Ali (which were Norton's on my card) it would be a draw. For me, Kenny didn't lost that fight. :verysad
This was an Ali win, he might not have won fights 1 & 3 but its being over generous to give Norton this 2nd fight, Ali swept the 1st 5 rds & won the 12th rd big, every other rd was very close except rd 7 (I think) which was won by Kenny. I believe I gave Ali 7 or 8 rds in this one but I`ll try & watch the fight soon to get my exact scorecard, I used to know it in my head but its been a while & I cant remember who I gave rds 6,8,9,10 & 11, I have the fight at home.... I`ll be back. :good
I agree with this post MUCH more than any other so far in this thread, its the most accurate... I had Ali in a slight lead going into the 12th & if Norton had won that one, a draw could have been argued but Ali showed that fine line between very good & great that helped him to separate himself from Kenny by winning the rd big, he turned it on like a champion, some of his combinations were smooth as butter, he borderline outclassed Kenny.... Ali deserved that win, the decision was correct... the only thing that was wrong was the fact it wasnt a UD.
other scorecards are welcome, waiting to see your view of the fight ) I had it 3:0 Ali and then Norton makes the bout close 3:2. 12th is no doubt Ali's
I agree with you. I thought Ali won this fight. I had him ahead by 1-2 rounds, but it was a close, tight fight. The 1967 Ali would have been able to keep up the fast, speedy pace that the '73 Ali set over the first 4-5 rounds and won a comfortable decision. But this Ali was still a very good fighter, but he was a notch below prime Ali. This version of Ali would have been a tough fight for '78 Holmes in my opinion.
Always amuses me how some people cannot post anything on Ali without mentioning "...the 1967 version" as if you'll be struck down by Allah if you don't show some kind of penance when admitting you scored him the loser in a fight way past his prime. "What was you card for Ali-Berbick?" "Well, before I tell you let me first say that the 67 version would win easily..."