Marvelous Marvin Hagler Vs Roy Jones jr

Wow, lots in this thread not giving Hagler a punchers chance? I'll give Hagler the benefit of being one of the greatest middleweights ever and he stops Jones late. RJJ is one of the greatest of all time, but I don't think he touches Hagler prime for prime at middleweight. Jones probablly takes a few of the early rounds, but Hagler closes the gap, hurts him to the body and stops him unless Jones lasts the 12 round distance.

 

Or its used as a single shot when a fighter moves into range, thus my classification of a "counter" to your opponents move. Pot shots are also used in close as single shots off of an opponents punches or movements. Hopkins and Mayweather are great at it as well. Jones used these to keep fighters at range and it close to slip away, but it was also all part of the game plan of getting his opponent to lead to setup the bombs.

 

No, a counter attack is a retaliation. You are talking about prevention or just well timed shots.

 

Hagler attacks rjj body slows roy down then clips him on the chin and takes him out with a KO.

 

Thats what a pot shot is with not a lot of power behind it. If you stepped forward and threw a righthand and missed and I threw a short straight right and nailed you and took off wouldnt you call that a pot shot? If you stepped in to throw another punch and before you could deliver I steppe in off to the side and hit you with a short check hook, wouldnt that be a pot shot?

 

Nope. If I were 5ft 7in and you were 6ft 3in and I just couldn't get near you, and you were motoring around the ring and stopping every other second to spear me accurately with long straights, that's what I'd call pot shotting.

 

So how did Roy do it when he was almost always at a height disadvantage? Maybe because he used his opponents misses and forward momentum to land little check shots?

 

Just really quick and athletic; featherweight speed at middleweight. He was a master at hitting and then getting out of range; the same basic style as Willie Pep I suppose, except trading the more bouncy footwork for a stronger base for powerful punches.

 

Hagler is my favorite fighter EVER.

But Jones is the wrong matchup.

Jones wins a UD, but probably with some uncomfortable moments. He was just too hard to hit at that weight, and had enough power to make Hagler but a litller worried to go all out.

Keith

 

Hagler dismantles him by the later rounds after a few adjustments and some early troubles. Regardless to what some may believe, Hagler was very quick and athletic in his prime as well and would not be outgunned. I think Hagler would systematically break Jones down using the jab to keep Roy off balance and get inside. However, I truly believe Jones is a live threat to pretty much any middleweight who ever lived. The man's athleticism and natural talent was immense, and anyone writing him off simply as an 'all flash no substance' fighter who would get eaten by the past greats is not giving the man a fair shake.

 

Jones decision via sheer speed, elusiveness and athleticism for mine.

 

Would Jones be noticeably faster than the Sugar Ray Leonard that Hagler fought? I think that this is a very comparable fight, even though Jones and Ray were different in styles. Hagler did lose to Ray, but it was a very even fight that could have gone either way.

This is a good close fight also, but i think that Hagler might just finish the stronger and produce a KO punch late in the fight.

 

hagler wins stopping jones late on