Emmanuel Pacquiao the most overrated boxer of all time

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  1. Nestea

    Nestea Thirst Remover Full Member

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    Nallege is getting more stupid everyday. I should contact the webster to make a new word for the kinds of like you,... trying hard gangsta wannabe know it all on an internet.
     
  2. 1lehudson

    1lehudson Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Pac is a good fighter but he is over rated. Yes he beat some good to great fighters but at what points in thier careers did this happen??? Erik Morelas for example was coming off a lost, beat Pac then got almost outclassed by Raheem...In his last six fights Erik was 1-5 only win coming vs Pac...Mab Lost 3 or his last 5 fights with a fight with Pac in that middle of that. Oscar lost 4 of his last 7 fights and most feel like he lost 5 of his last 7, Pac was the last one in that run. If you look at the best fighters that Pac faced they had a combined 2-4 record after fighting Pac which shows that they were clearly on the down side of thier careers. The one elite close to his prime fighter that Pac has faced is JMM and many felt that Pac lost both fights...

    So if you actaully look at it, its a resume that is being over rated in the sense that many would have you believe that Pac is in the realm of the likes of Armstrong, which I have seen him compared to, Leonard, and Whitaker. Pac isnt on that level and its not even close, but many are ranking him there, which is why he is over rated...To say that Pac is a top 5 to 10 fighter of his era or of the past 20 years is right and not many would disagree, but amoung the ranks of Armstrong and Leonard??? **** NO
     
  3. Mind Reader

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    This is bull****, Pacquiao is a great fighter, his skills in the ring and credentials speak for themselves. Any great fighters resume can be picked apart by a hater.
     
  4. scatterbrain

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  5. 1lehudson

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  7. 1lehudson

    1lehudson Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    While that is true, Pac lacks a clear cut win over a prime still viable elite fighter, not matter how you cut it..When compared to others even in his era is were he is lacking....I personally still think that that his best win was vs MAB in the first fight. Joe Calzaghe and Pac have very similar resumes, Pac's is of course better but only slightly, not to mention that Pac lost several times along the way.

    For me a win over Cotto will be by far his greatest win, and should he pull that off then this thread needs to be revisited and manys minds would have changed, I know that mine would.
     
  8. bulakenyo

    bulakenyo Am I a boxing fan yet? Full Member

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    If MP was a Latino, (especially PR or Mexican) less people would call him overrated, I feel.

    Because he's gonna have better "pedigree" or "brand name" recognition.

    I compare it to a diploma from an Ivy league school.

    "Ohh, Harvard. He must be really good. Accepted."


    "Ooh, a good Mexican fighter. From a long line of great Mexican champs. He must be great."


    But since he's from asia, from some little tropical country few people really know about, where even the asian ATG boxers are not household names in asia itself, he has to prove himself all the time.
     
  9. 1lehudson

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  11. LastQuark

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    That was the point. He used it as a bait. Use his right a lot to fake a punch then counter with his left.

    Just watch his right hand fake before the fatal shot on Hatton.
     
  12. Mind Reader

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    Pac may have lost along the way, but has always moved up in weight testing himself against bigger fighters. Calzaghe may be undefeated, but Pac took many more chances than Joe, who only moved up to LHW to fight two past it fighters. Barrera, Morales, Marquez were all bigger threats to Pac than anyone on Calzaghe's resume at the time he fought them.
     
  13. Knives7

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  14. bulakenyo

    bulakenyo Am I a boxing fan yet? Full Member

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    Hindsight is 20-20, right?

    What's common knowledge and an obvious answer now, was a pick 'em, 50/50 fight, (or even a big mismatch) before the fight happened.

    For example, before Ali-Liston happened, I read that Ali was a big underdog and everyone (except Ali and his team) thought that Sonny Liston would "Jeff Lacy" him.
     
  15. JM22

    JM22 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Damn, cant belive a lot of people are still not giving Pacquiao any credit, **** not even now that he's been fighting big jr WW and WW.:-(