Paul Williams at 160

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  1. booradley

    booradley Mean People Kick Ass! Full Member

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    I'm sick and tired of people saying Williams is a welterweight. I used to say that **** myself until I took the time to actually THINK about it.

    PTP just beat Winky Wright at 160. Winky came off a long lay off, and he is getting up there in age, but that is still a damn good win.

    Ring Magazine has PW at #3 at 160, and at #10 P4P. That means that according to Ring PWilly is the only middleweight in the current P4P top 10.

    I'll issue a challenge to the detractors. Name 3 active middleweights who can beat PWilly.
     
  2. JMP

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    Three active middleweights who CAN beat Williams?

    1. Kelly Pavlik
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    Yup...it would be crazy for people to call a Pavlik win over Williams as one over a blown up WW. Williams massacred Kolle who went 6 with Ward and just had a near shutout against Wright. He fits fine at middleweight despite his frame not naturally being 170-175 like some others.
     
  3. Hatesrats

    Hatesrats "I'm NOT Suprised..." Full Member

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    Middleweight's... Besides Pavlik I don't think much current MW's could beat Willy.
    Tho I do think @ 154lbs, Martinez has the style to give Williams fit's.
     
  4. wow_junky

    wow_junky Retired Full Member

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    Williams may be the 2nd best middle at the moment, but Pavlik is the only full time middle in the P4P top 100, which shows what sort of state the middleweight division is now :lol:
     
  5. rayhogan

    rayhogan Dont worry Pac, you wont Full Member

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    Williams frame is not a middleweight it's that simple. Yes he's tall but so is Caballero who stands 6'0 at junior featherweight for god sake. But right now at middleweight there is no fighters in that division right now that can beat Williams maybe except Pavlik but i still feel Williams can beat Pavlik.
     
  6. Mrboogie23

    Mrboogie23 what the?? Full Member

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    I dont think I've ever even contemplated a Williams vs Martinez fight. Ridiculous, I know.


    As far as Williams is concerned in the middleweight scene, I dont think there are many that can beat him. Pavlik can do it, but my money would be on williams.
     
  7. walk with me

    walk with me Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    if he can make weigh in @ 147 he is a welterweight
    if he can make weigh in @ 154 he is a light middle weight
    if he can make weigh in @ 160 he is a middle weight
    if he can make weigh in @ 168 he is a super middle weight
    if he can make weigh in @ 175 he is a light heavyweight
    if he can make weigh in @ above that he is cruiser - heavy

    don't trying to classify him by his height

    his skill level allows him to do this..if he was horribly skilled with a glass chin his weight class wouldnt matter because margarito would have already beat him @ welter and a bunch of other guys as well
     
  8. los507

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  9. walk with me

    walk with me Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    its his skill level that allows him to jump from weight class to weight class... not his size

    before im done in this thread im going to find 3 welterweights that are above 6 ft 2....and i bet none of them are in the top 20
     
  10. David_TheMan

    David_TheMan ESB Sage Full Member

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    **** The Ring and their rankings, they put P-Will at #3 at 160 so they could give their WW fighters excuses why not to fight him. The simple fact that he isn't even rated at 147 should tell you The Ring isn't objective anymore, its just a marketing arm for GBP.
     
  11. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    whats the last date that PW made 147?
     
  12. walk with me

    walk with me Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    the ring dislikes him .... they view him as a threat
    2008-06-07
     
  13. booradley

    booradley Mean People Kick Ass! Full Member

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    I noticed you conveniently ignored my challenge David. Name 3 middleweights who can beat Paul.
     
  14. walk with me

    walk with me Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    that has nothing to do with his size though... it has everything to do with his skill level
     
  15. David_TheMan

    David_TheMan ESB Sage Full Member

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    I'm not responding to your challenge because I don't care about your challenge. My post still stands as fact. How is Carlos Quintana rated, yet he hasn't fought at all in almost the same time frame that P-Will hasn't fought at WW? How is Margarito ranked when he is banned from fighting? But P-Will has no ranking whatsoever?