A discussion on British referee's

Khan would never get another ko again It's a dangerous thing to let a corner have the power to let a fight go on where a ref might stop it, the referee is supposed to be in a nuetral position, the corners are not nuetral so are not in any position to say when a fight should be stopped. I do agree though that British refs stop fights too soon but I do understand why.

 

British refs are a nonsense. 'Back from the brink' greats like Matthew Saad Muhammad would not exist in the UK.

It's even worse when a 'journeyman' is fighting. The ref seems to just stop the bout when he's on the ropes clearly defending himself and the house fighter is slapping his gloves.

 

There's been a number of poor refereeing displays recently and a lot of stoppages for prospects against Journeyman who were doing well or ok. We all know certain ref's without a doubt are working for the promoters not for the BBBofC....but lets face it...this aint anything new...still don't make it right.

 

I watch FFN on sky sports every week and the refs reali **** me off ther is kno decent scraps and house fighters getting premature stoppages.i dont mind richie davies tho especialy when hes scoring a fight his reactions when sum1 gets knocked down comical.

 

So you'd like to see journeymen 'opponents' pummelled like Saad in the (extemely unlikely) hope they can find the punch to stop the prospect?

Fighters in title fights and genuine 50/50 fights do (rightly) get more of a chance to fight back but theres no point in letting some Olympian prospect tee off on some 15-34 opponent just to see if the unexpected will happen that 1 time in 100.

 

standard of refs in this country is consistant....

its constantly getting worse every year

 

The corner are emotionally too close IMHO. TBH Arran I wasn't really thinking of your suggestion, more just that journeymen shouldn't be expected to ship too much punishment before a fight is stopped.

 

Thanks for putting those words into my mouth...as if I havn't got enough to say for myself without you chirping in...

They never let the fight go as far as it should, period. Even when there are good fighters involved there are early stoppages.

Of course one should take into account a journeyman is a journeyman and probably won't win the fight, but every ****er knew that when the fight was made. So why then do they so often jump in when a barrage of arm punches hit the guy on the ropes? How many times do we see a guy stopped and he's not even visibly hurt and looks rather confused?

It's a joke. They are just pandering to the promoters and building KO records.

 

I don't think its pandering to promoters and building KO records, the vast majority of those type of fights would have ended in KO anyway. Its about the ref acknowledging the opponent is overmatched and getting him out of there when that becomes evident. Yes, its happens too soon some of the time, but you're are never (well, very very rarely) see a blood and guts battle in those type of fights anyway.

Refs in this country get too hard a ride IMHO, remember Cotto-Cottey when everyone said the ref had had a great fight? If that had been a British ref and Cotto was a British fighter he would have gotten totally slaughtered (and I mean SLAUGHTERED!!) on here for ignoring Cottos pretty fouls and not allowing Clottey to play up on his "bad knee" caused by Cotto picking him up. I think I mentioned this to you and Ishy at the time....

Its like people watch a fight hoping to see poor reffing and sometimes convince themselves this is whats happened even when there has only been the most minor of incidents.

 

The number of KO's on fighters records has decreased massively.

 

They get a hard ride because they are wank.

They stop the fight too early. The 11-90 guy is overmatched, no ****!! Every man and his pet goldfish already knew that ****. Doesn't mean you stop him because the home fighter found it within himself to throw punches. It happens in boxing matches now and again...

It's bad all-round. Most of the time the journeyman doesn't even deserve the KO loss on his record at that point, yeah it might happen later so stop it later don't pre-empt. It's not good for the home fighter if he thinks finishing skills are just throwing a burst of punches. It's not good for getting rounds. It's just poor, pandering, bull****.

 

I totally agree that if you're 4 or 5 rounds into a fight and the journeyman with no punch whatsoever is being pummelled and isn't firing back , then yes the ref can step in. But some of the stoppages we're getting nowadays are laughable.

As others have said not only is this is giving the prospect fighter a false record of being a " puncher " , but it's also cheating the paying public . Lets see what these young up and coming lads are like going into the 5th & 6th rounds early in their careers. Spending a couple of months training for what ends up being a 4 minute spar is no good to anyone !!!

 

Terry O'Connor's stoppage of the Calzaghe v Manfredo fight was a joke.