How would the 1996 version of Tyson fare against the Klits?

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  1. DemolitionDan

    DemolitionDan ATG and HoF Full Member

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    I think he beats Wlad easily, but against Vitali it would be a tough fight I'm not sure if he would beat him because Vitali wouldn't fold up. Tough to say, Tyson-V. Klitschko would be a good fight.
     
  2. lefthook31

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    Well thats just wrong. Who have the Klitschko's faced thats anywhere close to the Tyson of 96? Vitali old Lennox Lewis?? Loss! Do you think Tyson would have boxed from the outside against Vitali or brought the pressure like Lewis did?
    Wlad was quickly beaten by Corrie Sanders, and then Brewster in the same fighting style. Since then they've avoided anyone who can bring some serious heat to a fight besides maybe Peter, but Peter wasnt even close to the skill level of Tyson, and he almost knocked out Wlad.
    In comparison, a stoned uninterested Tyson was knocking out guys like Bruno, Golota, Savarese and Etienne. Guys that were about as good or better than the stiffs that the Klitschkos are currently fighting. Etienne sucks, and he easily beat Brewster for crying out loud.
     
  3. ceebz

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    Prime Tyson would demolish Wlad. Vitali would be a good matchup, IMO.
     
  4. Danny

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    Yes, I also disagree about Vitali not punching hard enough, but back in 1996 when Tyson was not at his best, he was still extremely powerful & fast! He was still ferocious. I see Tyson's speed causing big problems for either Vitali or Wladamir!
     
  5. kriszhao

    kriszhao Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    What style did brewster use in the wlad fight absorb all kinds of damage until your opponent tired himself out.. Tyson has never performed well under pressure when he is getting pounded he usually folds watch holy fights or the lewis fight he folded up hell im having trouble remembering who's arm he was trying to break because he was giving him problems in the ring.. And brewster ko'd Golota in one what does that say about him? And Sanders got lucky welcome to heavyweight boxing there is a reason corrie refused to give wlad a rematch... bruno golota Severse are B and C caliber fighters i rate them much like brewster Mercer.. hell i rate Chagaev just as high as any of them Thompson ahdnt lost in what like 7 years before he fought Wlad.. Peter was an undefeated highly motivated fighter who was never the same after the fight.. He was also supposed to be the next big thing at heavy... :thumbsup

    Also you have to be a big hater to say they have avoided any heavys out there since they began there career... Tell me who did they avoid?
     
  6. lefthook31

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    Look at this way, Tyson was ten times more elusive than Brewster who was basically a punching bag with a somewhat decent chin. Tyson would be coming at the Klitschkos full force and much harder to hit than Lamon Brewster. Sanders got lucky? Cmon, he just took the fight to Wlad. Holyfield is an all time great who could handle pressure, he had been there done that in many tough fights. Tyson wasnt at his best against Holy, but he still had a style that would befuddle both Klistchkos who simply cant fight, and Tyson doesnt box, he brings the heat.
    Im not a hater just a realist. The Klitschkos proved how they handle pressure in the only meaningful fights they had to deal with adversity and sustained pressure, by falling apart and losing. That right there is enough proof to show me that Tyson still had enough in 96 to beat both brothers. If Vitali had the power of Wlad I would give him a better chance, but he doesnt. Do you really think either brother would be mentally tough enough to handle and discourage Tyson in 96? Not the Tyson who fought Danny williams or Kevin McBride, the Tyson that fought Bruno Seldon and Holyfield?
     
  7. kriszhao

    kriszhao Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Holyfield folded him up like a cheap suit and how can wlad and vitali not fight? you dont win 50+ fights if you cant fight.. And yes fighters can get lucky like McCall and rachman did against Lewis.. also Wlad did not deal with adversity against sam the rabbit puncher Peter how did he win? Also Lewis won on a cut in a fight he was behind in 4-2 on all 3 cards so how did Vit fold again he lost two fights to injury over the course of his career and was winning both fights... and has never been ko'd....

    And yes i think they both could give tyson problems,, Unlike you i can see the flaws tyson had and taller opponenet .. Leverage is lost when he especially being a shorter heavy has to punch so far up... you lose a lot of steam and dont make him out to be some combo machine after prison also his movement was not great then either he was not the same as he was in the 80's he also has been ko'd not TKO'd so dont make his chin out to be impenatrable you dont think Vitali punches harder then Douglas...

    It took tyson all of 3 rounds to comletely implode against holy in the second fight.. He was not a mentally strong fighter by any imagination.. I think Vitali would break him down mentally like Lewis did Vitali has the mentality that he is out to punish you.. And wlad moves well covers up well has a great jab and is nothing like the fighter who lost to sanders.. And again you said they ducked fighters who would give them problems NAME the fighters they ducked?
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  8. Brendan

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    Both Klits could beat Tyson alot quicker than that shitbox Buster Douglas did at any point in Mike's heartless, over-rated career.
     
  9. lefthook31

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    If you cant see it, it will take way to long to explain it to you by breaking down all their fights, when they turned pro and when they fought certain "name" opponents.
    There was no luck in those wins. They were punches that landed on the button werent they? Sanders, Brewster and Mcall went into those fights with clear gameplans of what needed to be done to take advantage of their opponents shortcomings.
    Lewis was in the same boat at one point, only he had the physical ability to improve and learn what it took to compete on the elite level of pro boxing. The Klitschkos dont need to do it, because there is no fighters on that level or even close. They can simply box cautiously from the outside with no threat.
    And another thing, Holyfield went through hell to "fold up" Tyson like you said. It was no easy task something Im sure neither Klitschko would be up to.
     
  10. Kid Cuba

    Kid Cuba Boxing Junkie banned

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    Beats Wlad for sure, not too sure about Vitali.
     
  11. exnihilo

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    exnihilo Karma Disaster Full Member

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    :lol::lol::lol: i'm seeing a grey beard a size of santa clause's
     
  13. Heavyrighthand

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    Great response. And just as I see it.

    SKilled fighters with a good reach and a hard to get past left hand render Tyson pretty ineffective, as Holy, Douglas, and Lewis proved.

    Douglas and Holy don't have near the power the K boys, do, and they both figured Tyson out and beat him.
     
  14. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    How would the 1996 version of Tyson fare against the Klits? :think

    Answer - not very well but the 87 version would blitz the klitz.
     
  15. exnihilo

    exnihilo Karma Disaster Full Member

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    2009 vlad would probably ktfo 96 tyson with a thunder thud that upper seats would hear. dunno about vitaly in therms of spectacularness, but he should win too.