Anyone else want to see Mosley/Williams more than Pavlik/Williams?

yeah i didnt want to take all the credit but... we all love pw for the same reason.... i knew he had the capabilities to do this a long time ago.. its just up to him now... if he can focus and work toward his goal he will achieve it... because talent & skill wise he has it all

 

No, I'm looking forward to Williams dominating Pavlik over 12 rounds. Before going on to rule the division for a few years. At last someone to take over where B-Hop left off.

 

Link please.

How many fights have PW had at Middleweight? Oh yeah 1, bah sorry thats all the facts I need. I don't need some cheap magazine telling me that.

Well at Junior Middleweight where PW is ranked number 1. I say Sergio Martinez and Dzurdick have a good chance to beat him.

Coming from a guy who typically runs away from my post. Your honestly one to talk.

 

I do not run from your posts. At least 90% of the time I completely ignore your posts. There are far to many quality posters on here for me to waste much time on you.

 

He made my ignore list quick order. When I do see these guys quotes because someone responds to them, it pretty much always confirms my decision.

 

In a perfect world, we'd have seen Abraham-Pavlik and Mosley-Williams.

But, Abraham being in the Super 6 tourney and Pavlik-Williams is still nothing to complain about in my book. The only one left out in such a scenario is Mosley, which I find ironic considering the same reasons he won't fight Paul are the same ones others are using to not fight him- too much risk, not enough reward.

 

I Would love to see Pavlik-Mosley Actually since Mosley could make good money in this one and get a title at MW.
I have always said this. Mosley TKOs Pavlik in the later rounds.
He has Nazeem in his corner and has the speed and power to really trouble Pavlik.

 

There is some serious bull**** going on here at ESB, and on some of the other boards. If I put all the guilty parties on my ignore list, there would be about 50 posters on it.

I've watched enough fights of both guys that I think I have a decent feel for how this fight will go down.

1st, Williams will study the Hopkins tape, and try to emulate BHop. He will learn three things. 1) He is not Bernard Hopkins. 2) Kelly Pavlik is not sick and injured. 3) He does not have the power to make KP hesitate the way BHop did.

2nd, Williams has several defensive flaws. No fighter who showed big defensive flaws ever beat Pavlik.

3rd, There is so much online bull**** right now that I actually read that KP just paws with his jab. Go tell Jermain Taylor and Edison Miranda that KP paws with his jab. Williams low right hand makes him a sitting duck for Pavlik's jack hammer.

4th, As soon as Pav establishes his jab he starts landing the right hand. That spells certain doom.

5th, I've also been reading about how KP doesn't have serious power. He just relies on volume. The kid has an 87% KO ratio against some really good fighters, and some other very durable guys. He has more than enough power to shut Paul's work rate down. Mark my words, PWilly will get caught by something big early on, and have to choose between going on defense or going out on his shield.

6th, Williams won't have any answers for Kelly's long left hook. He'll try to move away from the right hand, and step right into left hooks. KP will work that punch up and down. Williams will go the other way, and get hit with right hands.

7, Pavlik is a murderous body puncher. He'll go right to work on Paul's body, and slow his ass down before the mid rounds.

8, The talk about Paul's reach is way out of hand. Williams has a 1" arm length advantage, same as Miranda. The big difference is that Miranda was capable of hurting Pav, but Williams is not.

This will be a fast paced and exciting fight that will not go the distance. If Williams tries to bring it, he won't see the end of 5. If he tries to move and run a lot, he might see the 10th.

 

and nazim was in 180+ lb bhop's corner and bhop couldnt miss...but shane moves all the way up to 160 and stops him?? it may turn out to be a real interesting fight to watch but i disagree that mosely stop him.

 

what fights did you watch to come to all of these conclusions?

 

I've been watching Paul since I saw an early fight on ESPN. I started following KP when he beat McKart, but I've seen nearly all his fights in one form or another.

 

Williams will not be 100% at 147 because of cutting down of weight.

Mosley will not be 100% at 154 because he is too old to add weight at this point.

Besides . . . Mosley will be too short for Williams at both weight.

So the best fight for Williams is 160 against Pavlik who is just about the same height as PW.

 

In as much as a grizzly bear 'paws' I guess....

That was the first round in the Lockett and Rubio fights. People don't realize how much of a game changer those two punches were.

Pavlik's left doesn't get the attention it should on this board. He is a natural lefty. He signs autographs with his left. So he has his 'deft' hand leading the way.

Another area he gets no credit for. I remember watching one fight AFTER reading posts here and was surprised to see ANY body punches by Pavlik. According to posters here he hadn't thrown even one in the fight. atsch

 

90% oh really,

Well I guess that means you had no clue what your talking about about when you said my post have factual errors most of the time. Since 90% of the time you ignore them.

Way to go you just killed the point you were trying to make.