Cotto/Pac at 145 or 147 is a great fight either way; won't make a difference

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  1. CarlesX7

    CarlesX7 Shit got real! Full Member

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    No excuses here. Of course he wants to fight Pac. But we should speak the truth here. I said that Cotto knew Pac wouldn't go for 147, that's why he proposed a fight at 145, and that is no lie. It was his call to pick 145 instead of 143 that team Pac initially wanted.
     
    CarlesX7, Aug 6, 2009
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  2. ApatheticLeader

    ApatheticLeader is bringing ***y back. Full Member

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    If it didn't make a difference, why so much discussion between the boxers about it?

    Very simple question - answer it.
     
    ApatheticLeader, Aug 6, 2009
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  3. sdsfinest22

    sdsfinest22 Pound 4 Pound Full Member

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    have u ever freakin boxed before in ur life? Have you ever had to make weight for anything??

    That "1 pound" will be very hard to take off...Once you get your body down low in fat, such as a boxer has to do it gets very difficult to take off 1 lb....

    SO YES THE 1 LB WILL MAKE A DIFFERENCE..IT WILL BE A HUGE DIFFERENCE...:deal
     
    sdsfinest22, Aug 6, 2009
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  4. kirk

    kirk l l l Staff Member

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    if Pac wins he gets full credit from me ;)

    That being said.... when your boiling your body down to make a certain weight... sometimes even ONE lb can make all the differance in the world, hence how someone can make weight over and over and then one fight try everything they can to make weight and its nearly impossible to shed the lbs, and every pound you go lower it becomes that much harder.

    Tell guys who have tried and tried to make their weight yet still fall a couple pounds short on the scale that 'its only 2lbs'.... once youve already gotten your body to that point, 2lbs can be a lot to take from your body.

    That being said, Cotto is starting early... and weighed at 146 his last fight, i dont think this will hurt him much at all, if done properly and if he rehydrates properly... all credit to pac should he win.
     
    kirk, Aug 6, 2009
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  5. bachatu

    bachatu Pro Full Member

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    I agree. Time is very important when cutting, it is the grid by which everything is calculated in to. Does anyone know if Cotto uses or will be using a nutritionist/conditioning coach for this fight? It should be a no brainer... Someone needs to put a plan out for him and gauge his progress to ensure the weight is cut down properly.
     
    bachatu, Aug 6, 2009
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  6. buxzer

    buxzer Eastern Champ Full Member

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    I think both men are very confident of beating the other, be it at 147 or at 145... That what makes this a great fight... A guaranteed war...;)
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    buxzer, Aug 6, 2009
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  7. sdsfinest22

    sdsfinest22 Pound 4 Pound Full Member

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    Many Pro fighters have a set plan as far as weight and where they needa be..Time will help Cotto but at the same time I dont think he should do like Oscar did and get low much to quick cuz he'd be givin up his size advantage if he did that
     
    sdsfinest22, Aug 7, 2009
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  8. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    Since he's been at WW, he's come in 1 pound or half pound under a few times. His last being 146. IF anyone had a reason to think Cotto looked bad or lost vs. Clottey, it wasn't because of the weight. It was because of Clottey.

    The alarmist who are crying about how weak Cotto will be are just making noise...
     
    Lance_Uppercut, Aug 7, 2009
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  9. 1lehudson

    1lehudson Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Funny how people on the outside can say it dont make a difference yet the people on the inside are fighting harder about weight then the fighters will in the ring.

    Dont fool yourself it makes a difference if no were eles but between the ears:good
     
    1lehudson, Aug 7, 2009
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  10. nobius

    nobius 4th hokage Full Member

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    145 or 147 COtto will get killed anyway so it doesnt matter i hope Team Pac realizes that, it doesnt matter what is the weight of the opponnent as long as Pac is comfortable, for example Pac is only 142 on weigh in at a 147 bout and Cotto comes in at exactly 147 Pac can still kill Cotto at that scenario. That is my theory on that, as long as Pac is comfortable in the weight he will kill people IMHO.
     
    nobius, Aug 7, 2009
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  11. igor_otsky

    igor_otsky Undefeated Full Member

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    What's the difference of 146lbs to 145lbs?

    146
    -145
    100:happy

    Damn! Cotto really have to starve himself!
     
    igor_otsky, Aug 7, 2009
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  12. Jeff M

    Jeff M Future ESB HOF Full Member

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    Cotto is always below the target weight when they check a month or so before the fight. I just don't think in this situation the one pound hurts Miguel at all. Everyone's too caught up with the catch-weight talk (Freddie Roach, that's somewhat you're fault). LOL

    I personally thought all along that 145 was reasonable for this fight. If Miguel loses, we'll see comments that he was drained and such, but IF he loses, it will NOT be because of the weight!!!
     
    Jeff M, Aug 7, 2009
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  13. Little Pea

    Little Pea 'A' grade boxing fan Full Member

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    I find it funny when people say one pound is nothing...Many fights have been cancelled for one pound...Get it?
     
    Little Pea, Aug 7, 2009
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  14. sdsfinest22

    sdsfinest22 Pound 4 Pound Full Member

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    AGAIN, At that weight he is already dry...did you ever wrestle in high school? Box competition?? IT IS VERY HARD TO LOSE WEIGHT ONCE UR BODY GETS RID OF THAT MUCH WATER! IM NOT SAYING COTTO WILL BE THAT AFFECTED LIKE HE WOULDA BEEN IF THIS FIGHT WAS @143 BUT 1LB WILL MAKE A DIFFERENCE..

    COTTO KO PAC IN 10
     
    sdsfinest22, Aug 7, 2009
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