Biased, unbiased, or just plain stupid....it is a FACT that Pavlik has the better resume AND the better career. If you don't feel the same, you are an absolutely WORTHLESS Boxing fan. Kessler is one of the most overrated fighters of this decade...right up there with Hatton.
:readthre: **** dude. ADD much? On that same ****ing page a handful of posts earlier I said Pavlik's had the better resume/career even though I'm known to be a much bigger fan of Kessler. That guy was just taking it a bit far.
No need to be defensive...I wasn't talking to you...I know you said Pavlik... Just making a point using your quote...if he's biased, it doesn't even matter...because he's absolutely right.
The 2nd and 3rd lines of his post were factually accurate. The 1st and 4th were trolling hateful bollocks.
Well..to be fair...some would say you're being biased saying that's "bollocks"... because a good amount of people believe he is completely overrated, and his crowning uhhhh....achievement...lol....is LOSING to Calzaghe. I'm thinking some Kessler fans are mad they have to admit the American, Pavlik, IS "Greater" than their boy...lol
I'm American. Pavlik's greater in terms of resume and career...as for head to head? Well... Overrated is a stupid, subjective term entirely reliant on scale and context and even then fundamentally unprovable. He lost to Calzaghe - he's hardly his "whipping boy". Anything else?
"Bull****" is ubiquitous, and I'm pretty sure at least a dozen of my posts today have utilized it. Variety is the spice of life. :yep
This says it all. You are probably the biggest Pavlik fan on the board and you still go with Kessler here. I agree. However, much can change as you say. Kessler is in a good position, but also a position that could severely damage him. Pavlik is younger and has had fewer fights, so has years in hand.
Seriously. Give me your top 6 SMW at the moment and how many from the tourney make the list? Kessler Bute Froch Andrade Taylor, MAYBE since he was up on Froch until the desperation KO. Abraham, and the Andre twins top 6? Ring Magazine has two listed in the top 6. 4 in the top 10. Not a bad list, but not so 'super' in my opinion. Certainly not going to decide the king of the division. Again, clever showcase idea by Saurland before we knew he was claiming the rights to Kessler. I fully expect Kessler to win the thing, but, we shall see.
That is interesting. :yep In contrast, I'm probably without a doubt Kessler's biggest non-Dane fan (certainly his biggest non-Euro fan) and I have Pavlik as the more accomplished fighter at this moment...