LIGHTWEIGHT TOURNAMENT ROUND 2- Hector Camacho vs Pernell Whitaker

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  1. sweet_scientist

    sweet_scientist Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Greg Haugen, Rafael Pineda, Roger Mayweather, Juan Nazario and Louie Lomeli would disagree with you.

    All went down or got stopped by single shots by Whitaker.
     
  2. sweet_scientist

    sweet_scientist Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    For me, Whitaker's performance in the second fight was better than Camacho's by a country mile. Camacho did well early and stung Ramirez with some good, clean shots, but he basically ran and threw 3 or 4 flurries per round from about the 5th round on.

    Whitaker owned Ramirez for every second of their 2nd fight, and put on what is arguably the most clinical schooling of all time.

    Camacho's fight with Ramirez there looks good in highlight form (I should know, I put it up) but watch both fights in total and Whitaker's is easily more masterful.
     
  3. jaffay

    jaffay New Orleans Hornets Full Member

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    Whitaker wide UD I suppose
     
  4. redrooster

    redrooster Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Remebmer, you need a reason or your vote doesnt get counted. So far I see no valid reasons as to why Pernell doesnt get outpointed.
     
  5. DRmullen2

    DRmullen2 Member Full Member

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    Sweetpea wins it. Whitaker vs mosley @135 winner fights Duran.
     
  6. Sweet Pea

    Sweet Pea Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Inside. He'd be able to at least cope on the outside (this is being very respectful to yourself and the Macho Man), and would eventually realize the way to win is by pressing the fight and getting in Camacho's face. There he'd hold a very distinct advantage on the inside and would control the fight. I'm not saying he couldn't outbox Hector from the outside, but Pea would often do things like this, particularly against fighters that weren't considered power punchers (and even some that were). I don't see really any way he loses this fight, regardless of your mind-numbingly simplistic argument about speed.
     
  7. ricardoparker93

    ricardoparker93 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    When whitaker presses the action he'll take over. His jab and body attack slow down Camacho and break his rhythm, allowing him to dictate the pace of the fight. Camacho's flurries would win a few rounds but i've got whitaker MD.
     
  8. sweet_scientist

    sweet_scientist Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    There's also the whole issue about Whitaker being a way better defensive fighter. Even if he conducted the fight WHOLLY on the outside and at mid range, his defense would see him get the better of it imo.
     
  9. redrooster

    redrooster Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    What body attack? You must be confusing Pernell with Rocky Marciano.

    There wont be a body attack because hector doesnt have to fight on the inside. Hector is multidimensional and one of the sport's most versatile fighters of the decade. He will just tie him up and then what'll he do?

    When did you see louie Loy fight Hector on the inside? When did you see Howard Davis fight him on the inside? bazooka Limon? Boza Edwards? You see how futile that strategy would be? This isnt 1992 where Hector couldnt get out of the way

    Hector's style has never been to fight on the inside. He's too smart for that. I know because I've been watching him since his first Television debut.

    Whitaker doesnt even have a punch. That is, he's not a big enough puncher like Rosario and he isnt a sharp puncher either. I told you this comes down to two boxers with the same skills, same style except one is faster than the other. And hector didnt tire in the late rounds either. He had no weaknesses.

    Advantage: Camacho
     
  10. redrooster

    redrooster Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    How can he be better if Hector rarely got hit in his prime and won almost every round he'd fought? I'd say Pernell is more awkward and unorthodox style but that's about it.
     
  11. Flea Man

    Flea Man มวยสากล Full Member

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    god, these two are shocking. since when have i stole from boxing news and passed it off as my own?????can anyone produce an example?? anyway, camacho is out, rightfully so he has been outvoted.
     
  12. sweet_scientist

    sweet_scientist Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Well that begs the question; who was he beating in his prime when he was winning almost every round? Anyone that could carry Whitaker's coke satchels?

    Whitaker proved his defense against great fighters, even past his prime DLH could hardly land a clean shot on him. Hector of course, in his prime, when facing a used up Limon, Davis or a made to order Ramirez looked great. Not so when he faced Rosario or Haugen. Even against a faded Mancini and Boza Edwards he looked average. No need to mention Chavez, DLH and Tito at all, Camacho didn't win a round against those guys.