yeah, well managerial disputes aside wells was average as a pro, holmes is the atg, stop giving wells praise for being a failure ffs
You're biased. I just think there's been a fair few threads about someone recently, who, apart from being a posters Father, would not warrant the space otherwise.
i really don't know what you mean by biased. i simply just posted a picture. the fact is that nick wells ko d holmes twice, what have you done? holmes was a hell of a champion, i even wrote in a thread that i thought there might have been evidence for holmes to jump into the #1 slot infront of ali. im not blind. i know nick wells' pro career was ****.but there are lots of dynamics that go along with that. i was simply posting a picture . there are alot of things that you are not aware of obviously.
Kolcade your Wells's son aint ya? i think you mentioned before its good to have you on here, you do post alotta threads on him but its interesting and you have informed me about him and i knew nothing of him before
How did Holmes end up fighting both Wells and Bobick in the Olympic Trials if he was beaten by both? Doesn't one loss eliminate a guy from the trials, or is the system different? Thanks. (Postscript on 7/9/09: I found the answer to this question myself. The Olympic selection process involved two consecutive tournaments, the trials and then the box-offs. Wells beat Holmes at the Olympic Trials in Fort Worth, July 1972. Bobick beat Wells in the final of these trials. This meant that Bobick and Wells were supposed to meet several weeks later, in August 1972, at West Point in the Olympic box-offs. The winner would go to Munich. Wells was sick, however, so Holmes subbed for him at West Point.)
I feel had Wells had the correct pro trainers outside of Texas with the right connections he would have been a force but he had to raise his son alone, I remember there were a few other top Heavys he beat at the time. If he had a charley Goldman or Freddie Brown in his corner Who Knows
How tall was Wells? Boxrec says 5'10", but I always thought Wells was more like 6' or 6'1". Also, does anyone have any more pictures of Wells, especially as a pro? I saw Wells fight only once, in an amateur bout televised in the summer of 1976.
To be fair, I'm always interested in big hitters, amateur or pro. Sorry for flying off the handle. it's a shame Wells never got to realise his full potential.
I don't see any problem myself with you being interested in your father's achievements. I personally can't think of any other all-time great fighter who was ko'd twice by one man as an amateur. I think Nick Wells in general, and certainly his ko's of Holmes, is of interest to boxing fans.
I agree. The Classic forum is supposed to be about boxing history, and Nick Wells was a very important part of amateur boxing in the 1970s. The Wells story has actually started to fascinate me. I'm interested in learning more about the guy now. Kolcade: please continue to post about your father. By the way, can anyone tell me what happened to Wells in the Mike Koranicki fight? Was the bout stopped because of cuts?
Wells was not sick , it was a cut above his left eye, it was actually in the eyebrow. Any way he suffered this cut 1 or 2 days before the 72' olympic trials started ,from Jesse Valdez ( teamate)opening a heavy door on to Nick's eye. Nick was chasing Jesse out of the team hotel room because Jesse threw a lemon at Nick (Jesse was sucking lemons to make weight for his fight.) As soon as Nick had made it to the door Jesse was opening the door and the door caught Nick in his left eye. Horseplay ended up plagueing Wells for the rest of his carreer . So Wells fought Holmes with this cut, if you look at the picture you can see a darker spot above Nick's left eye. I honestly think this lit a fire under Wells ass to put Larry away quick, cause Nick knew Larry had the jab so Wells controlled the tempo and the distance betwwen the two -via rd 1 ko Wells. Wells then fought Bobbick and I want to make this clear, Bobbick did not create this cut, Ive read so many and heard that this cut was the result of Bobbick. It wasn't. Wells broke Bobbicks nose and was winning the fight but Bobbick simply took advantage of the gift that was there and capitalized. Wells was not sick for the boxoffs he was not allowed to fight by the olympic committee and doctors.This cut alone was aproblem for Nick the rest of his career. He should have had the right trainer have the bone shaved down by a plastic surgeon or something, because it reopened EASILY and cost him fights. There are lots of Dynamics that go along with boxers careers that should be closly examined and considered before drawing too many assumptions.