No Current Cruiserweight can beat Adamek

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  1. rumour24tiger

    rumour24tiger Well-Known Member Full Member

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    There's actually lots of dangerous fights out there. Cunningham rematch, Troy Ross, Lebedev, Alexeev - if he can be rebuilt - and Guillermo Jones.

    Adamek is on superb form as a cruiserweight. He's boxing well, boxing smartly, and is aggressive with it, and showing good power.

    It beggars belief the rubbish ppl write about the Cunningham fight. Adamek knocked him down with counter shots, when Cunningham was lunging in. It took skill to do that, skill and timing. Why was Cunningham lunging in so badly, some ppl might want to ask. Because Adamek has some good technical skills. This was a tremendous back and forth fight - skills, fast pace, thrilling - and the right man won it. Ppl are being really presumptious that Cunningham is simply the better boxer and that's all there is to it, that kind of attitude.

    The question is not whether Adamek can rule the division. But rather, whether or not he stays at 200-pounds. He's found his dance partner with Cunningham, and they might fight again. Perhaps the Jirov comeback could get interesting, and make it worthwhile for Adamek to stick around.

    I'd like to see Adamek beat Cunningham again, in what will be a hard fight no doubt. But a winnable one. Then perhaps fight a strong guy like Chris Henry, tread water a bit, stay busy and see if anything LUCRATIVE comes up...No one's gonna put up money for a Guillermo Jones unification and what's the point anyway, given that Jones lost to Cunningham, pulled out of a Showtime televised rematch and burned his bridges with US television.

    If someone like Povetkin, Haye or Chambers win a heavyweight title, I'll bet Adamek will move straight up to heavyweight.
     
  2. brownelvis54

    brownelvis54 BEER DRINKER PHILOSOPHER Full Member

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    Like I said before.......................no cruiserweght.................and definatly NO Hopkins either.........are you kidding me?
     
  3. rumour24tiger

    rumour24tiger Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Cunningham is a very real threat. Adamek showed a lot to beat him.

    Hopkins can spoil and make it ugly. If this happens I hope Adamek comes in with the right strategy and pounds out a good win - a win that isn't too ugly. I believe that Tomasz will beat Hopkins due to weight, desire, Hopkins' age/inactivity, and Hopkins' unwillingness to trade shots coupled with Adamek's aggression. Adamek has to deliver if he wants the HBO paydays to be coming in.

    If Adamek v Hopkins happens, Adamek will have to vacate IBF title I'd think. Cunningham would either get an elim, or be upgraded to champion. Cunningham would have another title chance, but would fall into further obscurity. He needs Adamek to get back on TV. So it would be Adamek v Hopkins for the Ring title. I wonder how Cunningham feels about Hopkins trying to steal his opportunity - they train at the same gym, don't they? Hopkins has made a lot of money already. USS is still in the shadwos.
     
  4. treva1977

    treva1977 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    i agree no current one could,but all it takes is for haye to move down or dawson to move up and that is out the window.
     
  5. nervousxtian

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    I'm a big Adamek fan, but I thought USS beat him.. and as much as I like Tomas.. he's a limited fighter.. he's tough, punches hard, and is technically pretty solid.. he's sorta slow (hands and feet) and he kind of plods at times.

    He is prone to be outboxed, and it's been shown he can be slugged with ala Briggs. (who's fights could have gone either way as well).
     
  6. emanuel_augustus

    emanuel_augustus Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Cunningham: Showed he has the skills the beat Adamek. His mistake was getting drawn into pitched battles too often in that fight, partially because of Adamek's pressure and partially out of necessity after the kd's. I'm a Cunningham fan and thought Adamek won it. I'd love to see this rematch. If Cunningham elects to move more laterally and not go back to the ropes, it's a winnable fight.

    G. Jones: The wild card in this division. It's a real shame this guy has fought so infrequently, because he's a damn good Cruiserweight. He badly outworked Johnny Nelson, stopped Braithwaite when Braithwaite still mattered, then comes back and hammers tough Firat Arslan. Jones is so good because he's incredibly rangy, throws a ton of punches and has real thudding power in the right hand. Age is a factor here, but I'd take him as a favorite to beat Adamek in a fight that will never happen.

    I'd make Adamek the favorite over about any other Cruiser, but guys like Wlodarczyk and Mormeck would give him trouble because they come forward and can punch. Adamek is very hittable and vulnerable to power with his boxer/puncher style. Ultimately, I think Adamek has the chin and skill to beat the rest of the top 10.

    There are some good fights to be made in this division and Adamek vs. just about anyone in the top 5 or 10 would be intriguing.
     
  7. BlueApollo

    BlueApollo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Cunningham has a GREAT shot at beating Adamek. Brother Nazim is going to do wonders for his defense, and he had NO trouble finding Adamek in their first fight. Actually, I think if that had gone 15 Adamek would have been in some deep doo doo.

    I think we see a trilogy from those two.
     
  8. Axe

    Axe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    There was a video on youtube about 4 years ago of BJ Flores ringing Jirov's bell in sparring so bad that they had to stop the session.

    That was 4 years ago, with headgear.

    There are more dangerous opponents out there than Jirov now, though he was a terrific fighter in his prime, not to mention an Olympic gold medallist.
     
  9. Axe

    Axe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    There is no way that Cunningham beat Adamek on the cards.

    The one judge who gave him the fight was definitely on crack. :rasta
     
  10. Danny

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    Maybe no other current Cruiser can beat Adamek, but I have a feeling a certain Mr Hopkins could!