What former middleweight champion could of went up to lighheavy and heavyweight

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  1. TheGreatA

    TheGreatA Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It's not like Monzon had it easy with Briscoe who was basically a poor man's 40 lbs smaller Joe Frazier.

    It would have been a mismatch.
     
  2. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    yeh great point forgot about Bennie :patsch

    Monzon would struggle at LHW let alone HW
     
  3. MRBILL

    MRBILL Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    No freaking way Monzon beats on Frazier without Frazier allowing it to happen for publicity reasons, ect..................... Frazier could and would steamroll Monzon rather quickly and rapidly............... Even an aging Frazier (Frazier is 2 yrs younger than Monzon) in 1976 would ice Monzon.............

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  4. janitor

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    Frazier is getting sold verry far short on this site these days.

    People can't look beyond his loss to Foreman and assume that any big fighter with a punch copuld take him.

    Personaly I don't think that Monzon matches up well with bigger fighters. He relied on his physical advantages to win fights and when you take those away what exactly is left?

    Perhaps there is a good reason why he never stepped up to light heavyweight.
     
  5. AlFrancis

    AlFrancis Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Anyone remember what Frazier did to Foster.
     
  6. janitor

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    No.

    They just remember what Foreman did to Frazier.
     
  7. MRBILL

    MRBILL Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Monzon was great but OVERRATED as all hell........... Ol' Carlito was HUGE at 160 pounds.......... Christ, even 'til this day rumors surface that he had members of his team tamper with the scales so he could weigh 160.......... He also hammered several dudes who were naturally smaller than him as well......... Monzon was great, but he really needed a 168 pound division back in the 70s........ I think he'd get KO'd by 175 pounders like Bob Foster or a young Victor Galindez.......... Cheers..........

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  8. D-MAC

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    Could Ray Robinson have done it?:think










    PS: Just asking. Don't actually know. Just thinking that he could have beat Maxim at LHW under the right conditions. Would HW have been too far though?
     
  9. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    D-MAC i dont think he could of, but he did have talks with Floyd Patterson at 1 point
     
  10. KOTF

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    If only Archie Moore won the MW title
     
  11. MRBILL

    MRBILL Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    NO!!! Robinson was fit at 157 to 160 pounds at roughly ages 29 to 37..... After age 37, SRR went downhill, but hung on for several yrs to come...... At best, Ray Robinson would've bulked up to 165 to 168 pounds.... I believe SRR was 164 for Joseph Maxim in 100 degree heat.......... Ray Robinson was the greatest P-4-P fighter in my book, but dudes like "Moore and Patterson" were just too big for SRR........ I cannot see Robinson handling 180+ dudes with skills very well.......

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  12. D-MAC

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    Cheers boys.:good

    I didn't think so, but thought I'd ask anyway.
     
  13. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    You need to go drown yourself and stop ruining boards like this one.
     
  14. OBCboxer

    OBCboxer Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Even if he was tailor made, the size difference and power would allow Frazier to easily KO Monzon. I am pretty sure Monzon's power isn't going to mean much at HW against Frazier. It's not even debateable, just stop.
     
  15. albinored

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    ..when there was talk...mostly by dumb sportswriters...of matching sugar ray robinson against ezzard charles, srr scotched it by saying 'hey...you want to get me killed?"