Why does boxing have some complex with UFC?

Discussion in 'MMA Forum' started by dubztep, Aug 9, 2009.


  1. dubztep

    dubztep The Original Dub Full Member

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    ...or at least boxing writers do. All I read is 'boxing should do this like UFC' of 'boxing will never be as popular as UFC' but to be honest I don't see why the two can't coexist. Big boxing fights tend to be on at different times from UFC anyway. And it's not like one can't follow both sports, I do and I know many others who do aswell. If anything both of them has improved the standard of the other - Dana White took many ideas from boxing and looked at its weaknesses, while boxing has felt the pressure from UFC and is now staging more fights that fans want. As long as boxing and MMA in general keep increasing the standard of fights and competition, thus giving fans value for money then that is all that matters.
     
  2. radab

    radab Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    its a fundamental ****ed up mentality that people and organisations have, rooted in insecurities and greed

    there's no need to be rivals, both could really learn from one another and even join forces now and again

    but thats just not gonna happen with the current mindset
     
  3. MasterFlo

    MasterFlo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    This argument should be done and over with, it's like pitting rugby against soccer, clearly both sports can co-exist. The loud marketing campaign put on by the UFC is making something out of nothing, it's all to attract the young, angry, white suburban kids who demand things that are more and more "extreme". Boxing has it's problems, so does baseball, football, basketball and Hockey, not to mention so does the UFC. Boxing is not boisterous, it's not an in your face marketing campaign, it's not often shown on sports center but it's been around since the Greeks and it'll live on for as long as were here.
     
  4. dubztep

    dubztep The Original Dub Full Member

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    yeh tru, like with the dates, if theres a big ufc card or boxing card, it makes sense for them to change it by a week. They both make more money and fans get better quality without having to choose.
     
  5. motownsiu

    motownsiu Boxing Addict Full Member

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    boxing has no problems w/mma. mma has problems with boxing. pacquiao was the 6th highest paid athlete this year, and was one of time magazine's most influential people. no mma a fighter made the list of highest paid athlete or most influential person. not even dana white. mma has to constantly has bring down boxing to bring themselves up. i always bring this up, but boxing is an olympic sport, they have yet to introduce mma as an event in the olympics and it probably won't happen in this lifetime.
     
  6. motownsiu

    motownsiu Boxing Addict Full Member

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    if i remember correctly the third time pac-morrales fought was the same night matt hughes-st.pierre. The bar i was in was showing both events. pac-morrales was standing room only. that other "fight" had enough space to sleep in.
     
  7. Bodysnatcher

    Bodysnatcher Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  8. pauliemayweathe

    pauliemayweathe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    boxing is more influencial than MMA but being an olympic sport means ****...who cares...the scoring is a joke and amateurs fight....boxing could be so much better and mma is at its best...they need more supercards in boxing for 50 bucks...not just one fight and a bunch of **** undercards
     
  9. doomeddisciple

    doomeddisciple Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Becuase for some very simple reasons.

    UFC is a by far a superior package to market at the moment.

    Please note - NOT, imo, the superior sport, nor the superior raw product.

    What boxing writers, Ricky Hatton and the general fight press are picking up on is that the archaic boxing BUSINESS is just dog ****.

    Promoters and cable companies are self serving and do not make the best match ups. Inconsistencies that are not prevalent in UFC's heavily managed business model allow them to deliver a product where:

    * Generally the best fighters are fighting the best fighters in meaningful bouts
    * One champ per weight
    * As soon as one event is over, the next two are scheduled and the promotion is ready to go.
    * You can buy a professionally top quality DVD version of every event or hire them from video stores within months of the PPV.
    * Clothing, merchandising - Even the video games (80 licenced UFC fighters pretty much doubles the Fight Night roster) are able to merchandise a consistent single brand to merketers which makes it easier to sell advertising, as well as the fact as once a sponsor is on board, they KNOW they will be represented at every single event - Not on a per-promotion basis.

    There's a lot UFC has going on that boxing doesn't, but it's still not the pinnacle of combat sports like a top flight boxing match is and to me there is nothing else in sport like a top flight boxing fight - Its the best.

    BUT

    The way that the business model has no over arching body to mandate or enforce a clear consistent brand to advertisers, sponsors or the fans means that the UFC is gaining ground as quickly as ever.

    We could certainly use a real proper reality check and not WBC's "Diamond Championship" BULL**** to further confuse matters.
     
  10. motownsiu

    motownsiu Boxing Addict Full Member

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    message how can the olympics mean **** if those are the most sought after fighters by managers and promoters. tell mayweather , cotto, klitchko, that it don't mean ****.
     
  11. SAS2

    SAS2 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    because in the UFC the best ALWAYS fight the best.
     
  12. Royal-T-Bag

    Royal-T-Bag Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    this talk goes on a lot more by ufc fans than boxing fans. every ufc broadcast i've ever watched has dissed boxing at some point
     
  13. doomeddisciple

    doomeddisciple Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That annoys me.

    However, I watched the post fight press conference yesterday and Anderson Silva and Dana White were asked about the Roy Jones fight and Dana answered that while he really doesn't like that fight - He really respects boxing, he respects Roy Jones and that he doesn't like that fight.

    It just comes down to UFC being able to present a more united front to boxings warring tribal states of mixed messages and titles.
     
  14. walk with me

    walk with me Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    some members of boxing feel threatened
     
  15. doomeddisciple

    doomeddisciple Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I am a bit self serving. As an Aussie who has to pay top dollar for everything boxing - Ring Magazine can cost 25 bucks here, your standard HBO or Showtime fights still cost 40 bucks, etc - I just want to see the sport get better organised so I can stop going broke ;)