what is the difference between the past greats and the modern greats

I'm not involved in this debate, but I do want to say that I could easily imagine Danny Lopez beating Morales. That right hand was one hell of an equalizer, and Danny did go 27 rounds with Sanchez.

 

Yes, Danny had that kind of power that could end a fight like that.... Not a surprise to me..... but for many posters that never saw Coloradito, it might look like that.

 

I have honestly never seen any other fighter hit a guy with what looked like a nothing punch, and then the guy stays down for 3-4 minutes! Danny also knew his identity; he knew the right hand would make things happen, and that made him pretty good at finding a way to land it. I can see Danny winning one in a trilogy with Morales.

 

BTW, you are invited to debate..... you have knowledge of the topic...and your contribution is appreciated... at least I appreciate that.....

Let's say that I am in a mission and I want to see if in reallity what people claim about living in a more modern world, actually creates or develops better boxers than before..... If the theory is right we should see the results at least every decade or every two decades.... right????

So lets see if they are right..... my opinion is different, but lets see.....

 

Yes, he was great.... and he knew that his punch could make the difference (save his a$$) once he was in trouble....:yep

 

The ultimate difference between the greats of yesterday and the greats of today is that the greats of yesterday have proven themselves and stood the test of time. A lot of guys being used in those sorts of threads are among the best and best remembered of all time.

Even assuming that an active boxer will indeed turn out to be great and not stumble along the way, (which happens all the ****ing time, anyone here remember all the people who were ready to list Mijares as an ATG?) trust me, there can be a huge difference between being the best of a generation and one of the best of all time.

For example, Oscar was one of the best welterweights in the past 15 years. (I never liked Oscar and I cheered my heart out when Pacquiao beat the crap out of him, but I'll give him that much). But does anyone here, anyone at all want to take Oscar in a bout over Sugar Ray Leonard? Hearns? Robinson? Duran? Yet up until Oscar spent the last 4 rounds running from Trinidad plenty of guys would have told you he was going to be one of the greatest welters ever.

As much as people sometimes overrate classic fighters, it's just as likely, if not more so, that people get caught up in the fighters they're watching now and start losing perspective. Anyone remember last year when some people were saying Margarito beats Tommy Hearns? Yeah, if you don't want to make a fool out of yourself comparing a modern boxer to the greats of the past, wait until the modern guy's career is over or almost over before you start saying who would win what.

 

Three rounds is the difference, championship rounds they used to call them. What a shame.:-(

 

Trowell,

This is the list of modern boxers who fought mostly during the '70s and '80s who have been inducted to the IBHOF. Some of them fought during the '60s and '70s and some during the '80s and '90s and I stated that... Some of them probably shouldn't be there.... I heard for example people saying that Ken Norton shouldn't have been inducted.... None the less, these are no bums.....

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Alexis Arguello
Wlifred Benitez

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Miguel Canto
Antonio Cervantes
Bobby Chacon
Jeff Chandler
Pipino Cuevas
Roberto Duran
Jeff Fenech
George Foreman
Joe Frazier
Khaosai Galaxy
Victor Galindez

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Marving Hagler
Larry Holmes

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Ray Leonard

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Carlos Monzon

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Ken Norton

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Carlos Palomino
Eusebio Pedroza
Aaron Pryor
Dwight Muhammad Qawi
Edwin Rosario
Matthew Saad Muhammad
Salvador Sanchez
Michael Spinks

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Daniel Zaragoza
Carlos Zarate

Now lets see your list of the '90s and '00s and lets compare them.

I understand that many are still active, and some just retired, but lets include those who have merits and we think they will be inducted to the IBHOF