Calzaghe went 10 years (97-06) without a big fight...WHY??

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  1. DOM5153

    DOM5153 They Cannot Run Forever Full Member

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    when people say he, do they mean frank warren didnt want to risk a loss because to my understanding joe wanted to risk his unblemished record and was cursed with what paul williams is now suffering from, high risk, low reward.
     
  2. John18

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    I think both options are correct.

    I also think you're being a bit harsh s the Mitchell and Brewer fights were decent and no-one fights top 3 fighters in every fight.
     
  3. robpalmer135

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    there was nobody for him to face at super middle until Lacy came along.
     
  4. dan-b

    dan-b Boxing Junkie banned

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    Utter ****.
     
  5. DOM5153

    DOM5153 They Cannot Run Forever Full Member

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    I disagree, but warren should have done more to secure the fights but like i say he was high risk low reward and the belt holders in central and eastern europe werent going to be interested no matter how much money was on the table
     
  6. El Cepillo

    El Cepillo Baddest Man on the Planet Full Member

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    It was a combination of Calzaghe's lack of confidence in his abilities, and Frank Warren's desire to maintain his cash cow.
     
  7. DOM5153

    DOM5153 They Cannot Run Forever Full Member

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    why is it calzaghes lack of confidence when warren was eager enough to put him in with hopkins.
     
  8. brown bomber

    brown bomber 2010 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    Calzaghe was not avoided, he was irrelevant.
     
  9. Davro

    Davro u wnt sum i`ll give it ya Full Member

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    Every impressive name on Calzaghe's resume was picked when they were at a disadvantage.

    If Hatton had been smarter, he could have followed Calzaghe's path and constructed himself as a legend. Except Hatton took on the best repeatedly, wore hs heart on his sleeve, gambled, lost, and is now getting on with his life knowing he tried.

    What Hatton should have done is waited until Pacquiao had dominated for another five or six years, then waited a few more years, and beaten the legend as a shrivelled up 40 yr old version of his former self. Then he should have taunted Mayweather out for a fight in his early 40s. Then talk about how himself as one of the greatest that ever lived at after dinner events for the rest of his days...
     
  10. El Cepillo

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    Calzaghe's lack of confidence manifested itself in his unwillngess, for most of his career, to do any kind of self promotion - to travel abroad - in pursuit of the big fights against the marquee opponents.

    It was also evident in the fact that when he did eventually become 'a name', after years of bitching about fighters not wanting to face him, when he could finally fight any opponent he liked, he choose to retire unbeaten, rather than actually take those fights and prove his greatness.

    But not before promoting an uncompetitve fight against a shot-to-**** legend, who Calzaghe openly admited was shot, and who he was on record as saying he would never fight.

    If Calzaghe had supreme confidence and self belief, he wouldn't have ****ed off into the sunset as soon as the doors to the big fights had been opened for him.
     
  11. DOM5153

    DOM5153 They Cannot Run Forever Full Member

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    **** me, the man himself has said he fought jones for the payday, yet when bhop continues his pursuit of jones its ok???

    The guy went off into the sunset because he knew his body and his HANDS could no longer cope, **** me, even JC doesnt beat supreme fighters with broken hands.

    JC has always said he regretted being as shy as he was and not taking advantage of promotional opportunities and maybe he should have been better in this department, but its not like it would have helped him to stop being 'irrevelent' in one way or to high risk in other ways

    If he was bitching about other fighters then surely they would have wanted to fight him, its all in the boxing politics.
     
  12. brown bomber

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    Calzaghe was not considered high risk, he was a joke in world terms until he beat Lacy
     
  13. El Cepillo

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    I would suggest that he fought Jones because it was an easier option than fighting a legitimate champion like Dawson or Pavlik in thier prime. Joe was happy with what he had achived, and didn't want to push his luck. Hopkins has tentatively pursued Jones because there is obviously a lot of personal anamosity between the pair.

    I know that its easy to make excuses why Calzaghe didn't do this, or go there, or fight this opponent etc. And some of those reasons probably have quite a bit of merit.

    But there were inevitably going to be issues to overcome in procuring those big fights against marquee opponents. The same issues that almost every successful fighter faces, Team Calzaghe failed in that respect for most of the mans career. There is simply no denying that.

    As for the 'Calzaghe retired because he has bad hands' thing, I'll take you word for it.
     
  14. DOM5153

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    I personly still wish he hadnt fought jones and had fought pavlik instead, it was a shame that hopkins got to him first. Dawson was the most dangerous fighter out there for calzaghe to face but unless jc was 100% that his hands would give out on him that fight simply wasnt an option which was a shame because jc would have beaton him as well:good

    i think personly he was let down by warren and simply didnt leave the guy quick enough:good
     
  15. pecks

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    He opted to pursue business rather than ambition, IMO.

    Many would have done the same if they were in his position. I'd imagine he would have been making some decent coin in the process, and the risk/reward ratio would have been much better while he was fighting in the UK than if he chanced his arm in the US.