Muhammad Ali or Roy Jones jr (in these time periods)

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  1. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    2 of the greatest natural boxers ever at their peaks, untouchable at these points, I feel Muhammad Ali was a little better tho, the variety he showed in each fight from 64-67 was unbelievable, he even went to the body vs Williams & Terrell :admin.... Roy relied more on sheer athleticism, Ali was a better thinking fighter & had the best foot movement of any fighter Ive ever seen (Roy included), tho I do feel Roy has the fastest hands in history, Ali aint far off either.

    Ps. Dont be suprised if conteh`s dinner appears to accuse me of `smoking Clays pole` again :lol: :rofl... but thats OK, there`s room for everyone on ESB, even homo`s.

    Cheers :good
     
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    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    You're smoking Clay's pole again.
     
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  3. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    :lol:

    I always struggle to separate certain fighters at their best, Ali, Jones jr, Leonard, Duran, to name a few, I just happened to choose Ali & Roy.

    Honest :D
     
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  4. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    It doesn't really matter. There should always be a Muhammad Ali thread on the first page of the Classic forum. He's the godamn man.

    You're definitely a nuthugger and poll smoker though (-;
     
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  5. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    Agreed (with the top line, the 2nd line is debatable :D)
     
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  6. Stevie G

    Stevie G Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Muhammad Ali was better overall than Roy Jones. Jones is one of the all time greats,though.
     
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  7. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    I agree, still suprised Ali is leading 8-1 tho, thought it might be tighter.
     
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  8. elTerrible

    elTerrible TeamElite General Manager Full Member

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    Well, Ali fought better competition and proved himself.

    Roy was amazing and had some good wins but he didnt prove himself the way Ali did.
     
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  9. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    True, I also thought Ali had better ring generalship than Roy too at their best, in fact better ring generalship, period.
     
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  10. OBCboxer

    OBCboxer Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Better athlete: Jones

    Better fighter: Ali
     
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    Jones was way faster..Ali messed with your head.
     
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  12. Bad_Intentions

    Bad_Intentions Boxing Addict Full Member

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    60's Ali would eat 90's RJ in less than 6 rounds.
     
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  13. OBCboxer

    OBCboxer Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    There's only a 40 or 50 pounds difference :lol:
     
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  14. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    P4P, mate.
     
    Bill Butcher, Aug 11, 2009
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  15. redrooster

    redrooster Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ring generalship is too broad a term. I will break down some crucial categories.

    Body punching-no contest. Roy Jones, perhaps the greatest body puncher ever to the no body punching Ali.

    Left jab-Ali
    Left hook-Jones
    Right lead-Jones
    Footwork and defense-Jones
    Chin-Ali
    dominance-Jones
    handspeed-Jones

    Jones would never allow himself to be hit the way Ali did. Rope a dope is not smart if you ask me.

    I will go with Jones whom I rank over Ali in p4p ratings
     
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