Manny Pacquiao's ATG ranking?

Before I say this I want to say that Hopkins is a legend and to do what he has done at 43 is an achievement in itself.

BUT....

Hopkins biggest wins were against fighters who were smaller than him coming up in weight (Pavlik, Trinidad, De La Hoya).

Hopkins LOST his biggest fights when he just did not do enough to win. The times when he really needed to do something special and put in the extra effort he fell short: (Calzaghe, Taylor x 2 and Roy Jones Jr)

Hopkins only fight against a prime, young fighter, in his weight division and of worth was Tarver.

I'm not saying Pacquaio is a top 10 all time great. I'm saying he is without debate definately above Hopkins.

 

In any true boxing fans eyes, JT never beat Hop, Dibella did.

 

Pac beat a past it Barrera, a Morales who beat him and lost a fight at 135 right before he came back to 130 to fight Pac, and barely beat JMM if you believe he ever did. Hop's resume alone shites on PAcs because after the big 3 on Pac's resume, PAc has nobody else worth mentioning on his resume.

 

Morales was shot, ODLH was weight drained, old, and possibly shot, Barrera was past his prime.

The only time Pac fought a prime fighter, he arguably lost twice vs JMM.

 

Pacquiao? Top 20 - 30 easy. He is the first boxer to win 5 lineal titles in 5 different weight divisions not to mention that he is probably the only flyweight who made it pass 126. I'd rank him over Mayweather. IMO, Mayweather is only at top 30-50. Espn.com ranks him as #48 as an ATG.

 

stupid iguana at it again

past prime barrera who was pound per pound number 3 fresh from hamed :rofl

beat pound per pound morales and jmm..made them kneel the canvass.

hopkins vicory was like watching a laundry woman slapping his way out .
he slaps moving up fighters while losing to bigger men while his slapping is nill. :rofl:rofl

pac's manner of victory shits on hopkins anytime. just like the way i **** on your face as i please. :good:good

 

crying crying crying...

look at the ******'s vote....


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oh my oh my..... pac is 90-100...

**** you are really so stuppppiiiddd. LOL

 

I need a translator lol...

 

Nobody cares what a Pac rePactard thinks as they will vote Emmanuel Dapidran over anyone in the history of this sport...and the man is still fighting lol... How can you rank a man with legends and ATG when he is still fighting is beyond me lol...

 

Marquez x 1
Barrera x 2
Morales x 2
Hatton
De la Hoya
Sasakul
Ledwaba
Larios
Solis
Diaz that is pretty much Pacs resume, and i think its definately good enough for top 25

 

This is more reasonable...

 

that is because you are dumb :good:good:good

 

LMAO calling me "repactard". How orginal of you. I guess that's a good acheivement for a ******. A ****** like you shouldn't exist in this forum and in reality. Tsk tsk tsk. Your parents really made a mistake having and raising you.

Who are you talking about? If you are talking about Floyd Mayweather Jr., then the answer is simple. Manny Pacquiao is a good boxer. He is exciting. Pacquiao has more fame than Mayweather. Manny Pacquiao is probably the only boxer who started at 106 and made it pass 126. Correct me if I'm wrong but no one in the history of boxing that a 106 champ has achieved
Manny Pacquiao's achievements. He is also the FIRST boxer to win 4 lineal titles in 6 different weight divisions (5 lineal titles if you include the one from 126). In terms of boxing knowledge and skill, they're about even. The only way the we can all know who is better is if we make they fight now. Both are in their prime and there will only be few who will make excuses if one lost.

I repeat why I would rank Manny Pacquiao over Floyd Mayweather Jr.
- Pacquiao is first boxer to win 5 lineal titles in 6 different weight divisions
- He started at 106 moved up 41 pounds from his debuted weight class and became champion 6 times in 6 different weight divisions (112, 122, 126,130, 135, 140) and no Mayweather did not start at 106.
- He first became a champion when he was 19.

If you are gonna rank Mayweather solely because he has no loses then that's stupid. Tyson, Ali, Duran, Chavez, Sugar R. Robison and all the all-time greats have loses on their resumes. They are ranked highly because of their achievements.

I'm sure that your puny brain will not be able to understand any of the simple points that I typed so you should read it 5 times so that you can comprehend them all.

Everyone knows that you're dumb, a clown, and of course I prefer to call you ******. Everyone in this forum hates you and you know it because you make the most ridiculous posts and threads in ESB. Calling Barerra shot when he was the #3 p4p when Pacquiao faced him. Accusing Pacquiao of avoiding black boxers. Truly ridiculous. You're bum! You ******!! :hi::hi::hi:

 

Lets do a side by side comparison to Oscar De La Hoya, who I don't even have in the top 30, let alone top 20 or 25.

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So now that we have establish that Oscar who doesn't even crack top 30 or even 40. how in the world is Pac at 25????????