Ezzard Charles was as good as Ray Robinson

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  1. Sweet Pea

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    :lol:I go into a little harmless detail about my thoughts on the matchup, and you get all huffy. Typical.
     
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  2. Manassa

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    Huffy? I'm not arsed one way or the other. You're the one who gets huffy, it seems.
     
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  3. Sweet Pea

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    Yep, ya got me.
     
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  4. Manassa

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    Yes I have, you ****ing ****.
     
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  5. Sweet Pea

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    Pssht. Well that's your loss, 'cuz I'm a great friend.
     
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  6. bxrfan

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    :?






    :think




    :lol:
     
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  7. Stonehands89

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    This is a solid post.
     
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  8. Sweet Pea

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    Apparently Manassa thought so as well, otherwise he wouldn't have gotten his panties all bunched up about my daring attempt to have a casual debate with him.
     
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  9. Manassa

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    There is nothing more riling than someone telling you how pissed off you were, when you weren't.

    Well done.
     
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  10. Sweet Pea

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    You probably weren't mad, Manassa, but your response indicated that you had no intention of continuing the debate, most likely because you had no rebuttal. That's what it came off as, anyway. Attempting to write off my post in a condescending way made it all the lamer. Regardless of whether or not you were mad, you were acting like a *****, which is why I antagonized you.

    Respond if you wish, I'm off to light up another blunt, by which point I'll have stopped taking anything seriously again. You guys kinda killed my buzz with all that ****.
     
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  11. Manassa

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    No rebuttal?

    You know, sometimes people just simply can't be bothered to enter another quote-by-quote debate about something really trivial. You know how much they bore me? Nowadays I do my best to avoid them, even if I risk looking like a cop-out.

    But seriously, what made you think you had one up on me? I even stated that I didn't particularly think Napoles would have beaten Robinson, but that if anyone could have upset him, he would be one of the ones who could do it. As stated, Robinson was not unbeatable even at his best, even if it was down to a hectic schedule - every now and then, he was vulnerable to a knockdown or a close decision.

    And then you went into a styles breakdown which was I was totally disinterested in. For your information, I am fully aware of the strengths and weaknesses of both Napoles and Robinson, and need not a description from you :good
     
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  12. Bokaj

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    Someone else said this when I made a similar thread. I asked for a more detailed explanation but never got one. 'Cause to me it seems very hard to be more technically sound than Robinson. He threw that right hook from the outside to the body that's dependant on some serious athletcism not to be a hazard, but otherwise he seems sound as a bell to me. That he didn't fight much on the inside was due to his build, not technique.

    But if two very good posters claim that Charles' technique was better than Robinson's there might something to it. So please elaborate.
     
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  13. Manassa

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    I wouldn't say Charles was more technically sound, just that he was a bit better rounded stylistically because of his infighting. Robinson, for all his agility, didn't waste much.
     
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  14. GPater11093

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    thats tough but he could do it. Over his career he would lose afew there definitly Giardello and maybe Flowers.

    same here and im a huge Jose fan.

    Thats how i see it. Also Robinson had very very good speed that would trouble Napoles. Also Hedgemon Lewis had that out fighter classical boxer style and gave Napoles a handfull in the first fight (albeit Napoles wasnt at his best)

    Definitly in a hectic schedule but then again in a Hectic schedule most top Welterweights could beat Robinson.
     
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  15. Manassa

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    Well he beat Kid Gavilan despite having fought frequently in between, didn't he?
     
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