So who is greater in ATG Ranking? Pacquiao Vs Hoya?

LOL. First of all one of his losses was against MAB, losing to MAB in the manner in which he did doesn't mean he's shot. Then he beat Pac, then lost to Raheem a runner who could have given him problems earlier in his career.

Then had two grueling fights with Pacquiao.

By the time of the Diaz fight and the third Pac fight, yeah he was done. Not by the first Pac fight though. Just another ridiculous way of trying to discredit Pacquiao.

 

At the moment De La Hoya, just.

 

This thread is ******ed. Oscar lost most of his big fights while Pacquiao has destroyed and humiliated ring legends. There's no comparison possible. Plus, Pacquiao is still in his prime. There's no telling what he can accomplish.

 

Post #40 young lad. Write up your response, type it, and wait for mine.

 

So I guess Manny has never lost and he also "destroyed" Marquez?

Bolded is the important part. Manny has time to make this entire discussion a joke, but it isn't one yet.

 

Losses don't matter that much. What matters is how you look when u get back in the ring. It's not like he took round after round of punishment... Getting knocked down 3 times in the opening round is pretty damn humiliating, especially against a man believed back then to be a one dimensional brawler.

 

There's no shame in losing to a shot Morales. But to say Morales was at his best in the 1st Pac fight is just ridiculous. If morales was in his prime,Raheem wouldve been destroyed and Diaz wouldve been flushed down the toilet.

 

why is this even kinda close...its pacman

 

There's a big difference between past it and shot. He was NOT shot in the first Pac fight.

Whittaker was past it when he "lost" to Oscar, he was shot when he lost to Tito.

Tyson was past it when he lost to Holyfield, he was shot when he lost to Lewis.

 

you said kinds, stay in school. Cop that R.I.F son, you need it:rofl

 

Good enough. I voted for Pac either way.

 

This is a distinction a bunch of people never get a grip on. :-(

 

WTF. Pacman on the lead. :huh
OK, I'm a ******* but Hoya ranks higher.

 

This is what it boils down to.

If Oscar had beaten every name on his record, he'd be the greatest fighter in history, bar none.

 

Had Pacquiao fought everyone, and in their prime like Hoya, Pac probably wouldn't be talked about today.

Not Pac's fault completely, he was fortunate enough to have come at the end of MAB's and EM's career. As well as DLH's.