So who is greater in ATG Ranking? Pacquiao Vs Hoya?

De La Hoya is about 60-70 IMO

 

Pacquaio beat a past it hoya. Hatton sucks got his ass knocked out twice when he stepped up in competition.

Right now I place De La Hoya about 10 spots higher.

Pacquaio in the 60-55 range

De La Hoya in the 50-40


If Pacquaio beats Cotto he will then be almost tied. If he beats Mayweather he'll be like 20 spots ahead of Hoya

 

Debate me! Debate me NOW!!!

Btw here's a list of my favorite fighters that were not MX, just off the top of my head:

Jack Dempsey
Gene Fullmer
Ricardo Mayorga
Zab Judah
Arturo Gatti
Angel Manfredy
Kassim Ouma
Roberto Duran
Marvin Hagler
Jose Napoles
Rocky Marciano
George Foreman

 

seriously Uliuli stop the BS. you know damn well DLH is not ahead of Pac. based on what grounds??? Pac has beat every mexican legend this century, gonna beat the best Rican this century, then he might even beat the best fighter of this ERA, and who knows. right now hes way passed DLH and still has fights to go. this **** anit even close and you know it.

 

Come on Philla, Quartey is superior to Larios by a country mile and we all know it.

When Manny beats Cotto and gives Mayweather everything he can handle, nobody in their right mind will say he is a lesser great than Oscar. But those two names aren't on his resume yet.

 

Hatton sucks?? his only 2 losses are to the best 2 fighters of this ERA. what u talking about??

 

At this point, my argument and debate is that Pac should not be ranked higher ATG than Oscar because Oscar's accomplishments are better.

I'm not going to get into a debate as to where Pac should be in the list if you guys can't even justify why Pac should be ranked higher than DLH.

Refer to post #130 to debate my well typed out argument.

 

Post #130 baby!

 

Fernando Vargas was a much better fighter in every category. Much better win for DLH.

 

Im not here to debate...I was just asking coz I cant believe what the TS claimed that you rank pac around 90-100..is it true?

 

Hey, no insults on my post #118, in case you missed it, just detailed valid arguements to post #85.

 

True, he lost some but that were fights with TOP p4p opponents.
PAC won more but some of the fights (like JMM) were troubling him a lot.
PAC lost also early a few times which Oscar didn't.

... but PAC is on roll, Oscar is finished. Lets wait for the time when PAC
retire and compare then the resume, no one know if PAC is able to beat Cotto.

Maybe Cotto, Floyd, Mosley are to PAC same as Sturm and Hopkins were to DLH?

 

Vargas was done after the beating Trindad gave him. but it was a great win for DLH, and I think its his best win!!! HAHAHAHA

 

True, but the question of topic is who's higher as of now. (assuming Pac retired today)

 

Pacquiao