British Forum: Which ATG was Calzaghe greater then?

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  1. brown bomber

    brown bomber 2010 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    No he didn't. He took away the jab because he was a fast southpaw - not because he was an amazing technical fighter. And he windmilled like a mutha ****a which allowed him to outscore his opponents. He simply out worked Kessler, Eubank, Lacy and Hopkins (debatable) thats not taking away there strengths thats just common sense.

    What other fighters did he magically technically shut down. Its a falicy -he wasn't an great fighter.

    Pacman, Trinidad, De la Hoya, Mayweather, Whitiker, Lewis, Holyfield, Tyson, Barrera, Morales, Naseem, Marquez, Toney, Hopkins, Ronald Wright, Mosley, Cotto were all miles better then him and thats the tip of the iceberg. I'm just picking names out at random.
     
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  2. Beeston Brawler

    Beeston Brawler Comical Ali-egedly Full Member

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    :think
     
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  3. brown bomber

    brown bomber 2010 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    Cotto has beaten more quality names already and still has time on his side. Also as a technician h2h he stands miles beyond Calzaghe- no doubt.
     
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  4. PrideOfWales

    PrideOfWales Winston Zedmore Full Member

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    I think what you overlook with Calzaghe is his ability to get a result. A lot of the time, the all round package is greater than something that looks pretty... and you even have to admit, Calzaghe, though not quite up to that beaut in your avatar, is actually better looking than most of the fighters you listed.
     
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  5. brown bomber

    brown bomber 2010 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    Not a chance. He's minging to watch. Horrible. I would never in my dreams pass that on to someone and say try and replicate that. Its awful. Getting results in fights such as most of his defences was hardly challenging for a supposed world class fighter. Only his consistancy was notable.
     
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  6. mckay_89

    mckay_89 Haw you! Full Member

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    80. Abe Attell
    81. Tiger Flowers
    82. Billy Conn
    83. Joe Brown
    84. Azumah Nelson
    85. Marcel Cerdan
    86. Juan Manuel Marquez
    87. Kostya Tszyu
    88. Nicolino Locche
    89. Holman Williams
    90. Bob Montgomery
    91. Joe Calzaghe
    92. Mike McCallum
    93. Khaosai Galaxy
    94. James Jeffries
    95. Gene Fullmer
    96. Benny Lynch
    97. George Dixon
    98. Flash Elorde
    99. James Toney
    100. Winky Wright


    I consider everyone in my personal top 100 to be an ATG there's 9 he's better than in my book.
     
    mckay_89, Aug 14, 2009
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  7. China_hand_Joe

    China_hand_Joe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The guy was batterered by Margarito.

    Jeff Lacy was Calzaghe's Margarito, loaded gloves would not have helped Lacy.

    Cotto consistantly beat titlists yes, but not one great oppontent.

    Yes he beat Mosley, but Mosley struggled with Mayorga and a shot Vargas.

    Kessler's form eclipses that of Mosley.

    Cotto hasn't improved from the time he was a prospect unfortunately.

    He is a waste of talent, should have had a different trainer.

    Calzaghe can throw more punches than Cotto, which should count for something.
     
    China_hand_Joe, Aug 14, 2009
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  8. 'Ben'

    'Ben' Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Calzaghe in my opinion is the best boxer from these shaws from my liftime.
     
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  9. El Cepillo

    El Cepillo Baddest Man on the Planet Full Member

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    Cotto's resume is superior to Calzaghe's already, and by some distance. Plus Cotto probably has 4/5 fights left.
     
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  10. TFFP

    TFFP The Eskimo

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    He is right though...you could never see Calzaghe losing to a Margarito. No chance in hell, it just wouldn't happen.

    Calzaghe is also vastly superior to Ronald Wright on film. Wright is too static.
     
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  11. Dan684

    Dan684 Dave's Stepdad Full Member

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    How old are you Ben 6 ???
     
    Dan684, Aug 14, 2009
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  12. TFFP

    TFFP The Eskimo

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    How is Kostya Tszyu greater than Joe Calzaghe, Losfer? I am just interested in your rationale.
     
    TFFP, Aug 14, 2009
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  13. China_hand_Joe

    China_hand_Joe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Tszyu is the only fighter in history who would beat Calzaghe in a mythical P4P H2H matchup.
     
    China_hand_Joe, Aug 14, 2009
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  14. TFFP

    TFFP The Eskimo

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    Perhaps, but then again Joan Guzman is also close behind.
     
    TFFP, Aug 14, 2009
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  15. Dan684

    Dan684 Dave's Stepdad Full Member

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    What ? ^^^^^^^^
     
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