So who is greater in ATG Ranking? Pacquiao Vs Hoya?

How much faith do you have in polls?

Most of those votes came from *******s and people who just got into boxing.

Dr. Harrison, how about if instead of basing your opinions and thoughts off polls you base your opinions off facts and arguments.

 

JCC win better than morales?

uli, dlh had all the advantage in that fight. age, speed, size and if I am not mistaken reach.

you try to point out that morales and mab have fought more years than jcc. Just answer this one question, you dlh ass licking *******.

how many fights did jcc have by the time he fought dlh the first and 2nd time. :rofl

 

This poll is indicative of what the boxing industry and unbiased boxing fans think of who is higher between De La Hoya and Pacquiao as of now in the ATG rankings. IMO Pac has the slight edge as I've explained and countered your post. True, De La Hoya has fought more of the better fighters. Also true, he lost almost all of them. His best wins: 33 & 36 year old Chavez, controversial win over 33 year old Whitaker, and Fernando Vargas. Although De La Hoya is an ATG, ducked nobody, he'll also be remembered as a little bit of an underachiever, losing in his biggest fights. People will remember him running away from Trinidad and quitting on the stool against Pacquiao.

So stop being bitter and biased, calling forumers here kids, when you sometimes act like the biggest kid here, never giving Pac his due credit. Yeah the *******s can be annoying (and I'm Filipino), but maybe the one thing they do know about boxing is true: Pac is a once in a generation kind of boxer. Don't be such a hater.

 

only a delusional poster would think he knows more than the overwhelming majority.:nut so 70% dont know what they are talking bout because you dont agree with them. atsch

 

I would rate Pacquiao above DLH at this point. No disrespect to DLH, he's an ATG, HOF and and a legend with no doubts.

 

Barrera 1 and Marquez 2 are better than any wins De la Hoya ever managed

 

WTF??! Do you even follow boxing? Sure DLH had youth on his side, but how many times have we seen skill beat Speed?? HUNDREDS.

Morales had been fighting pro for 13 years when Pac finally beat him, had been in a several grueling wars and was obviously at the end of his career. Past his BEST, and arguably SHOT. Morales was not even a titlist, he wasn't even P4P, hell, out of Morales' last 6 fights he only won one, his hast hurrah vs Pac. GREAT indicator of shotness.

JCC had been pro for 12.5 years when DLH beat him, had one loss and a nice winning streak since, was the WBC champion and considred P4P. He still continued winning after with the exception of the DLH rematch.

You're F-ing insane if you think Morales was a better win.

How much does it matter??? Better question is how many ass kickings, or how many brutal wars that take something out of you was JCC in compared to MAB?? MAB was always and will always be inferior ro JCC.

And ON TOP of that, MAB and EM do not even come close to JCC's skill level. Mab and EM are probably the best MX of the early 2000's, but nowhere near JCC on the ATG...As you familiarize yourself more with boxing you'll understand it more.

 

Dude, how long have you been at ESB?? How many morons who no nothing about boxing, or who are just dumb little kids, and how many *******s do we have at ESB??

Do you seriously take the poll serious from a site where peeing in Laila Ali's butt is a common and accepted term when debating someone? :rofl

Please. I read debates rather than polls. :deal

 

Why :deal

 

stu--d uliuli....... he just licks hoya's dick... hahaha I'm tired of your sh!t.... owned a lot of times and make alts to cover his as*

 

Uh? Just because someone says, "I voted for Pac" doesn't mean I got owned. NO ONE has been able to successfully break down my argument, and there have been many guys who initially would have voted for Pac who said I either made a GREAT argument, and or have been swayed the other way.

Most *******s have just tried to insult me with name calling, more than likely because you don't know how to effectively rebuttal what I posted.

Read post # 182.

I promise you that Pacquaio will still be grateful for your loyalty, even if you stop thinking he's God. :good

I bet you the VAST majority of those who voted Pac didn't even bother reading my post, I gurantee it.

 

I read your post.. and I think someone already answered your argument.
after he get owned by telling people they are crazy for thinking pac will win against hatton and hoya, you start thread and posting non sense things just to discredit pac's victories.... just can't accept that pac beat all your heroes... I'm expecting more of your likes after nov 14

 

but you are extremely arrogant to think that you know more than the 70 percent that voted. this is not a very hard question to answer because these two are popular, and careers vastly covered by the media. you have your opinions but to totally discredit the views of the overriding majority is arrogant and wrong.

 

ya he is arrogant as hell. if you search all of his post, you will see that he always jump to a thread where pac is being talked and start telling people that pac isn't great.... blah blah blah and afterward get owned. he is just crying out loud for the humiliation that hoya and other hero of his gets from pac. cry baby:|

 

we can debate but you will always believe what you believe even it's wrong because you are being blinded by hate that you get from pac for beating your heros. and what are you implying? are you saying that the 70% who voted for pac doesn't know boxing and we should believe you cause you've been here since you were born???? jackass:hi: or should I say dumbass