Sam Langford vs. Joe Calzaghe

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  1. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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  2. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Sam Langford wins by KO.

    Very obviously.
     
  3. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    I suspected your answer would be something along those lines. :D

    Describe how the fight goes, style wise.
     
  4. McGrain

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    Calzaghe does well for however long it lasts. His speed and timing make him look great in picking his spots (so great there will be calls for a redundant rematch) and he'll score points in all the rounds he's involved with whilst Langford times single shots to the body that only hurt Calzaghe occasionally going away.

    All this time, of course, Langford is deploying subtle pressure, coming to understand Joe's best assets - his "non-balanced" way of fighting and his masterful control of range. Calzaghe continues to move around the ring with Langford in pursuit.

    At some point, Langford - by a combination of luck and generalship early in the fight, or trapping and counter-punching later in the fight - lands a flush shot on Calzaghe who has been dropped by punchers not even in the class 3 classes below Sam Langford. He's caught coming in and he doesn't get up, and if he gets up, he wishes he hadn't got up.

    Is this in an era with instant replays? If not there are going to be calls of "fix", because it might be difficult for even ringsiders to see what has transpired. To those in attendance it might look like Calzaghe went on one of his standard forays and then fell down for no reason.

    Basically, Calzaghe's chin isn't up to this particular job, and as Janitor may well have pointed out whilst I was typing up this response, there may be no man in fighting history so dangerous with one punch...or one who hit harder pound for pound.

    I'll say...K05, but anything from 1 to around 10 is possible.
     
  5. Unforgiven

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    Calzaghe was decked by four of his opponents and always got up to win.
    I suspect Langford would catch him with something, sometime during the fight, that would put him down too. But this time Calzaghe wouldn't get up. Could be early, could be late. Calzaghe may be miles ahead or miles behind. Whatever, I think he gets KO'd.
     
  6. PowerPuncher

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    I have a feeling Calzaghe may pull off the UD because he has allot of things that will trouble Langford like lots of movement, fast hands, more modern skillset, high guard, not to mention 5inches in height
     
  7. McGrain

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    Are you kidding? Apart from the fact that he doesn't sell his attacks he's made for Langford in every concievable way. A volume punching swarmer without great power or concrete chin. That's Langford's ideal on paper opponent.

    Literally.
     
  8. OBCboxer

    OBCboxer Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Langford KO and it's not even close. Calzaghe is so open and has bad defense and when hit by Langford he will go down, and not get up.
     
  9. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    Joe had better power in his prime though, he should beat Langford to the punch, plus if you back a puncher up you take away his punch. I'm not saying Langford couldn't win, he may and he may KO Joe, he may land cleaner better blows throughout but I have a feeling Joe would outbox him, although Joe's openness to right hands maybe his downfall here
     
  10. McGrain

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    His power was fine; but not the type of HW power neccessary to keep Sam off, that's proven.

    He would beat Langford to the punch, for a while.


    Yes; Joe would outbox him. Until he got KTFO.

    Calzaghe has the wrong STYLE not to get hit.

    Calzaghe doesn't have the CHIN to take Sam's punches when he gets hit.

    I'm gonna leave you to your opinion because I know you will defend it to the very death, but there is no real reason to pick Calzaghe here. Even over four rounds I expect he would get outswarmed in a close one. But with Joe hitting so - comparitively - lightly, I think Sam would just take his time over the longer distance.

    I could quite happily conceed to you that 2000 fighters are superior to 1914 fighters in every way and still happily pick Langford by KO on styles and physical equipment.

    No brainer.
     
  11. LeonMcS

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    If Sams allowed to chew some tobacco between rounds he'll finish it inside 8. If he isn't, inside 4. Then light up a big black cigar.

    Coincidentally, reading Clay Moyles book on Sam at the moment, a great read.
     
  12. Bummy Davis

    Bummy Davis Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I think if anyone could beat Calzage impressivley it would be Sam who was a special Giant killer but Sam did have a close 6 rd bout with Ketchel and lost a 4 rder to Fat Willie Meehan...Does this suggest he had a bit of trouble with speed and movement....I see some very tough moments for Joe but his movement and incredible speed trouble Sam.....Under the 12 rd limit I see a SD win and I know it could be sacraligious( could go either way...I am leaning towards Sam
     
  13. Muchmoore

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    Sam Langford knocked out Harry Wills, a borderline top ten HW for christ sake :lol:

    Calzaghe has no chance to avoid him for the duration, there's a reason he fought overseas until the legends aged.
     
  14. Shake

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    Agreeing with a second-half K.O. I think Calzaghe makes it to the 9th more often than not, personally.
     
  15. FromWithin

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    Langford by brutal KO