Corrie Sanders would beat Joe Louis

The Czyz fight was a major reason why everybody felt Holyfield should retire and have no chance whatsoever against Tyson.

My point is that some fighters who have just a few attributes together, like Sanders or Rahman, can sometimes beat great fighters without being great themselves. Sanders had power, handspeed and footspeed and the soutpaw stance. Can't be compared with Butterbean. He was fast enough to chase Wlad around the ring when he had him in trouble. Of course he wasn't a great fighter, probably mostly due to lack of focus and desire, but he was dangerous.

 

Is Corrie Sanders overrated? To a point yes. He had a better chin the Louis and had more then a punchers chance. I have some of his older fights when he was weighing about 215. He had fast feet,hands a jab and throw good combos especially 2 the body. He was a really good prospect before he became lazy. The Nate Tubbs who knocked him out @ the time was undefeated. He was also beating Rahman b4 he gassed out and was TKO'D on the ropes. He definitely had a chance 2 beat Louis who would b the smaller man and with the shorter reach. But Louis was better because he trained and was motivated unlike Sanders, who became a lazy slob.

 

Well there is a serious contingent close to Holyfield that will tell you he purposely carried Czyz for a few rounds before stopping him, because King was hesitant with Tyson, (which we now know why). I think they were calling for Holy to retire after the third Bowe fight, and the Czyz fight was really an exhibition against a small guy who had no business in there, so when Holyfield couldnt stop him in one round, everyone starting questioning him.
Butterbean was quite the finisher himself when he had someone hurt and Im convinced he could have stopped Czyz as well.

 

That was their excuse against Brewster actually

 

Just goes to show that your thread, unlike this one, is so uncontroversially great that no one has any issues with it. :hey

 

The only reason this has so many responses is because it's self-evidently silly and everybody feels the need to say so. Often, threads involving knowledgeable analysis of less-discussed fighters (eg Bogash) get less traffic because fewer people feel qualified to argue with the conclusions of somebody who's obviously done the research.

I've noticed this with several Classic threads about lesser-known fighters. They're greatly appreciated, but seldom responded to.

 

I will atempt to right that wrong.

 

Aside from a potential flash knockdown, I don't see why Louis couldn't do the same thing journeyman Nate Tubbs did, especially as Tubbs wasn't even of Louis' caliber

 

It's actually Wlad fans that hype Sanders not Vitali fans, after all the less of a fighter that Sanders gets made to be, the more vulnerable Wlad is.

There was also absolutely nothing lucky about that win. Wlad got speed blitzed.

 

sanders would crumble on the first serious punch louis landed. this fight wouldn't go for long either way imo.

 

Sanders KO's Joe Louis???.....yeah,...and then you woke up!!!

 

These past greats versus current fighters always fail on so many variables. Without some guidelines there can be no consensus for leveling the playing field to allow for comparison.


That said, the only speculative assessment that can be made based upon what we've seen is that Corrie Sanders - in this era - is superior to both Klit brothers in a variety of areas (though obviously not all areas). He decapitated Wlad in two rounds and he started kicking Vitali's ass in the last segment of the 1st round. It will always be wondered what if Corrie had consumed two fewer cases of Miller, and two or three fewer boxes of donuts in his training camp for the fight with Vitali. A 38 year old, past prime, fat dough boy in pathetic condition almost destroyed both of the large but obviously limited Klitschko brothers - in their prime. That was no accident. That was no one off. In ten fights out of ten, he would always have the better hand speed and the superior punching variability. His relative or comparative deficiencies (e.g., conditioning) are obvious. Since one cannot attribute a well conditioned Corrie Sanders (as he basically has never been in that state) he would be only a 50/50 pick going head to head with the brothers no matter how many times they were matched. Joe Louis may or may not beat Corrie Sanders on a single night as better athletes/fighters have not infrequently taken inferior opponents lightly and underperformed. But, Corrie Sanders would surely beat the Klitschkos as often as not. And that is no myth.