Middleweight Tournament Round 2: Hopkins vs LaMotta

it's ok your on candid dumb ass in the general forum

 

styles make fights

 

Yea Hopkins had trouble with pressure fighters

44yo BHOPs - Pavlik - 120-108 - Pavlik hits harder, throws as much if not more and is rangier
43yo BHOPS - SD defeat - could have gone either way, Calzaghe is bigger, is far faster, better boxer and throws more
Glen Johnson - dominating performance and stoppage - Johnson usually throws a load of leather

 

Johnson was not really a pressure fighter at that point in his career though. He tried to box and was outclassed in every way by Hopkins.

 

You need to watch Lamotta.

I'm a massive B-Hop fan anyway, so I'm not putting him down. But there's no way Lamotta would stop putting pressure on Hop, unlike Pavlik who was AWFUL that night.

Myself, I like to say Hop offset Pavlik's aggression by buzzing him early (2nd round). He isn't going to be able to do this against Lamotta.

With any other draw Hop could've won this competition. But he got a hard draw.

 

We're not exactly putting the wayyyy past peak Hopkins against LaMotta tho. What Hopkins did vs Pavlik considering his age and peak quotient was freakish.

 

Sorry I've dragged myself into the wrong argument here.

I'm PRO HOPKINS. I have him borderline top 20 P4P post-war. If not top 20.

I was just responding to PowerPunchers comments.

 

Shut your little aorexic kiddy mouth up around adults and figure out how to actually throw a punch, because you couldn't in the fight you posted :yep Don't blame me for others starting personal attacks

 

Actually I only included one...Irish Bob Murphy by Mistake. Go ahead and take his name off the list...Lamotta resume is still loads better.

Wrong. Every fighter I listed were in the RING MAGAZINE top 10 according to BOXING REGISTER when Lamotta fought them.

Wrong Powerpuncher. According to the 4th edition of BOXING REGISTER Bert Lytell was top 10 middleweight in the world by RING MAGAZINE when Lamotta fought him. Facts are Facts.

Jimmy Edgar, Coley Welch, and George Kochan were ALL RING MAGAZINE top 10 according to Boxing Registers 4th edition.

 

you blame yourself and your intellegence is questioned because you brought up lamotta being another ricky hatton

and you also said he only fought smaller and older men ..

is that what you do ? .. just because your black doesn't mean you have to use the rocky marciano equation and pretend a decent white fighter is only decent because he fought "old men and smaller men:"

 

and you call for personal attacks and then attack some one personally calling them anorxix and kiddy around 'adults" .. you aint an adult and if you are god where were your parents when you were a kid? on dope!

 

So you portray Dick Tiger as a great middleweight and not Jake Lamotta? As far as I am concerned both have extremley similiar careers in terms of wins/losses and big performances. Both have there own equally as impressive styles. Ultimatley, I favor Lamotta slightly.

 

Been thinking about this fight for a while now. Here's how i see it going

Early on i think that hopkins would control the fight, using lateral movement, boxing well and building up the points, around about the 6th i see lamotta beginning to have more sucsess, he was clever when coming in and has underrated defence in his prime years. So i see the fight the longer it goes the more it goes to the inside, lamotta would have the better here, not dominate mind hopkins is a clever enough operator on the inside himself but jake was better and has a much higher workrate.

So Jake would begin to eat up the lead that Hopkins builds up early, but can he do enough to get the decision? If this was over 12 i'd say no but its 15 so i think Lamotta would sneak a split decision