LIGHTWEIGHT TOURAMENT QUARTER FINAL- Floyd Mayweather jr. vs Ike Williams

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  1. teeto

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    12 rounds, no reason, no vote
     
  2. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Williams has a serious style advantage here and his combination of power and hustle would bring him a close decision on the aggression and best punching.
     
  3. teeto

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    Floyd still has that mobility at 135, and Williams could be outboxed. As much as people don't like to admit it, Floyd Mayweather is very likely amongst the best for ability. Williams could be flat footed, and even if the counters were working well, and the jab, it's hard to catch Mayweather well without exerting tremendous educated pressure. Not that Williams was incapable of such, but it wasn't really his style.

    But it could be said that Williams' hand speed sets up a stoppage win, like how Judah caught and dropped Floyd due to his superior handspeed and power, Williams would be finishing better than Judah. But then again what evidence do we have to go on that Mayweather can be hurt and ko'd? I still think Williams can stop him though.

    I know for a fact that Williams will go through here, but i'm voting for Mayweather as i think it is winnale for him over 12 rounds, [and for his opponent most definately]
     
  4. PowerPuncher

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    Mayweather has far better faster footwork and balance than Ike who's footwork was a little ponderous. Williams could be side stepped and countered, timed in the way in and generally outboxed by the very best boxers. If you let Williams set his feet he's a nightmare at mid-range. I would really like to see Galivan-Williams as I'm sure Galivan's footwork would be the difference

    I see Mayweather winning the first 5-6 fairly comfortably as he uses his speed, movement and timing to outbox Williams. As he tires and slows and lies on the ropes more Williams will work the body and head but won't have that much success due to Floyd's defensive ability, I see Williams taking control of the beggining of rounds and Mayweather rolling, getting some punnishment and taking over the round in the second half. Consequently I see the final 6-7 rounds quite close, each fighter taking half of them.

    Mayweather 8-4 or 9-3 decision
     
  5. CottoDaBodykill

    CottoDaBodykill Boxing Addict Full Member

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    i seen a little bit of williams..he drops his gloves a bit too much not to get rocked by floyd mayweather .. and at 135 may still had a bit of pop to put someone on their ass ..
    i could see this fight being a bit like the judah fight .. with mayweather being cautious the first few rounds .. then opening up and taking off with it winning a wide decision ..

    no williams isn't the same fighter as judah is .. but mayweather would go about it the same way ..
     
  6. teeto

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    I know i picked Floyd, but if anyone is getting rocked here it isn't Williams.
     
  7. McGrain

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    :lol:

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  8. CottoDaBodykill

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  9. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    i like Willaims in this Floyd still had his good movement but didnt use it as much. Willaims i think can take advantage of the more stationary Floyd and pound him and make Floyd move.

    When Floyd does move he wins the rounds and i think Williams makes Floyd move for a close UD in FMJsfavpur
     
  10. WhataRock

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    Im going to have a bit of a think about this one.

    But those 24 rounds Floyd did with Castillo are very much starting to sway me towards Ike.
     
  11. teeto

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    They are a different type of pressure cooker though, Williams and Castillo. Although in terms of Williams being better and hitting harder i get your meaning, styles do make fights though, most of the time.
     
  12. WhataRock

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    Those fights reaffirmed my belief that Chavez would take down Mayweather 9 times out of 10.

    Ike is not the same, but he is as good as Chavez and a clear level above Castillo, he does bring the kind of intelligent pressure I dont think Floyd likes. The kind where no quarter is given and he is not given windows to counter effectively or breath.

    But Im still thinking about it..Floyd is a superb fighter, no doubt about that but we are at a stage of the tourney where its the very best here.
     
  13. smitty_son408

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    Wow, you have Ike who is arguably the most powerful guy to have reigned at the weight, great pressure and punching ability going against Floyd who is just so versatile and good at every range. This versatility is the x-factor here because Floyd is such a smart fighter I see him being able to find the right tactics to win rounds. Again were talking about these guys at their very best. I don't think Williams necessarily had the type of footwork to contain Floyd from circling the ring, not to mention Floyd's ability at close range get's quite under rated, though thats not where he would want to be the whole fight. He would be the quicker man in this fight, better footwork, more accurate, and do the cleaner work, but Ike would definitely make him work for it.

    Floyd wins by a point or 2.
     
  14. Manassa

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    Exactly, a little bit - the Beau Jack fight I'm guessing. Williams was baiting himself to set up the powerful hook & uppercut counters which broke Jack down and had him coming out weak for the sixth round.

    However, if the only footage you saw was of Williams-Bolanos II, you'd think totally different. Against a moving points scorer, Williams came in with a tight, high guard, snapping jabs and working solidly on the front foot in the style of Julio Cesar Chavez, a totally different approach.

    I don't think Mayweather moves enough to dazzle Williams. He did move, but he also exchanged a lot on the ropes - in this day and age, he was able to outclass fighters who, though strong, lacked subtlety in their techniques. Williams would walk in through a tight guard and pumping jab, being countered a few times of course, but ending up on the ropes with Mayweather and hit hit hard and often.

    Some of Mayweather's challengers were hard and sharp hitters, but they weren't intelligent punchers like Williams, who I'd expect to take most of the late rounds after grinding Mayweather with rib shots. He wouldn't be swinging away or aiming all his punches at a single target, he'd mix it up and punch when the time was right.

    This would be Ali-Frazier, but better.

    Williams UD15.
     
  15. Mr Butt

    Mr Butt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    i think mayweather may become to negative in this fight over the later rounds costing him a the decision in a close fight