Lennox Lewis was not an ATG

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  1. Jennifer Love Hewitt

    Jennifer Love Hewitt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Lewis is the GOAT.
     
  2. josak

    josak Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The prime 3 years where he fought 35 times and mopped up the division.

    Ya and this a boxing website. Lewis would say that the Tyson fight was his greatest achievement.
     
  3. BoxingFanNo1

    BoxingFanNo1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Who did Tyson beat that was better than Vitali and Holyfield? Look how weak his resume is from 1995 - 2005. Lewis, to be frank pisses on Tyson in every department apart from the 3 prime years. 3-4 good years in a 20 year career is not that special.

    Lewis did it for far longer, his average oppositon is far better.

    Lewis > Tyson, any fool can see that.
     
  4. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Liston would have been man-handled by Lewis; Frazier would have been bounced like a basketball. Say what you will about Lennox, he was one of the very strongest hw's ever. Every opponent commented on the same thing, his size and his incredible strength. Foreman is just monumentally unskilled, sloppy with more open holes than a Sunday hooker.
     
  5. josak

    josak Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Tyson's prime was from 85-90. In that period, he fought upwards of 40 times, that's a little fact that people tend to ignore. Tyson was basically in jail when Lewis came around.

    Tyson's "3-4 good years" where he cleaned out the HW division, became the youngest HW champ ever, unified all 3 HW belts, and never even came close to losing, is a lot more impressive than anything Lewis ever did, imo.
     
  6. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    Lennox Lewis is, in fact, Ali.

    The man claiming to be Muhammad for years is actually an impostor.
     
  7. BoxingFanNo1

    BoxingFanNo1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    But who did he beat???
    Thomas :rofl
    Tubbs :rofl
    Frazier :rofl
    Berbick :rofl
    Smith :rofl
    Tucker :good
    Biggs :rofl
    Holmes :rofl
    Spinks - boarderline, both :rofl:good
    Bruno :good
    Williams :rofl


    And there we have it......
     
  8. PowerPuncher

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    Tyson ducked Lewis who was his mandatory in '96 though, preferring to take on Bruce Seldon, then Holyfield and dump the WBC belt

    Lewis's definining fight is widely considered the Holyfield fight, but Lewis cleaned out the HW division not just Holyfield and Tyson, he beat all the best of his generation and the best of the next generation and thats his legacy

    BTW I'm a massive fan of both fighters
     
  9. essexboy

    essexboy The Cat Full Member

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    He is an ATG simple as. #10 All-time heavyweight for me but I wouldnt argue with someone who had him in the top ten. Saying he drew with Holyfield just shows you dont know what your talking about. Saying hes outside the top 15 heavyweights is just ludicrous.
     
  10. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    Why are you laughing? Thomas, Holmes, Spinks, Berbick are excellent wins
     
  11. essexboy

    essexboy The Cat Full Member

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    Yeah I'm not sure beating Bruno was exactly the peak of his achievements either. Coming from a proud Englishman.
     
  12. MRBILL

    MRBILL Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Go to hell:hi:

    Lenny Lewis is a solid top-10 ATG champion for the ages............. The bloke beat / KO'd everybody he ever lost to the first time around.......... He got the last laugh............... I rank Lewis high somewhere beween # 6 or 7 in the top-10............ L.L. was great.............
    :deal:bbb

    MR.BILL
     
  13. BoxingFanNo1

    BoxingFanNo1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Beating a 2 year inactive 39yr old Holmes is not an excellent win!
    By that standard Lewis beating Tyson is an excellent win :lol:

    Beating Thomas who between 87-91 lost 5/6 fights and never beat an A list fighter in his life is not an excellent win.

    Berbick? Now I know you're taking this ****....

    Spinks is boarderline good as I stated, excellent? Hell no.

    Try again.
     
  14. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    I agree he`s massively overrated on here, I have him at no 9 personally.
     
  15. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    Your losing it :nut