*****Deontay Wilder Improves to 7-0 With 1st Round KO*****

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  1. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Blame ESPN. Teddy Atlas won't tell you the truth, but I will:

    Team Wilder was given three choices of opponent and accepted all three.

    Wilder's team wanted a 17-17-1 guy from Tucson who is coming off a draw with a 17-1 guy (six rounds). The AZ commission turned him down because they said he's too old (40ish) despite his most recent result.

    Wilder team's second choice was a 9-4 guy who was also on the list. ESPN elected to go with the 3-4 opponent instead.

    Teddy won't mention that his own network went with the least attractive of the three.
     
  2. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Like Mike Tyson did?

    FACTY -- Mike Tyson's first six opponents had a combined 17-40-3 record.

    FACTY -- Wilder's first six opponents were 14-25-4.


    SMFH at people who have no clue.
     
  3. slip&counter

    slip&counter Gimme some X's and O's Full Member

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  4. KOTF

    KOTF Bingooo Full Member

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    OBCBoxer, how would a Deontay do against Jimmy Young?
     
  5. BigEars

    BigEars Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Absolutely mouth watering, but I'm scared a small man from Sakon Nakhon is going to go and ruin it all.
    While I think Dunne is certainly capable of outboxing and winning a decision over Poonsawat, I'm worried about the Thai's power, aggression and general ability to set up his big shots.

    I suppose I'm a pessimist in a way, I favoured Cordoba strongly over Dunne. But I suppose in that fight I couldn't take into account what the strength and conditioning Dunne did for that fight(which was far greater to what he had ever done in training camp before), and with the nutrionists help would lead to. He was like an all new fighter in a way.

    It'll be hard to know what Vasquez has left till he gets back in the ring, but Marquez looks ruined to me. Marquez may have been rusty in his last fight from the lay-off but he looks done. Of course that doesn't necessarily mean Vasaquez is gonna be any worse of but with the lay-off, increased age and the eye potentially being a problem you can bet that it'll be unlikely Vasquez will be quite the same. How much he has slipped would be the question.

    As for Dunne, well if he can beat Cordoba and then Poonsawat you'd have to give him a real chance against Vasquez. But Dunne still has to beat Poonsawat and if he does who knows what condition he will be in himself by then. Dunne would have the ability to outbox Vasquez and if he lands right with the left hook he probably could hurt him. But I couldn't see Dunne taking too many clean shots from Vasquez before being put away. The Vasquez that turned up for Marquez II and III would blow Dunne away, but does that man still exist ?


    Anyway all the permutations in the World won't matter if Dunne can't beat Poonsawat, and with my money on the Thai I'm not too hopeful yet :-(
     
  6. Saintpat

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    Is Jimmy Young still alive?
     
  7. The Professor

    The Professor Socialist Ring Leader Staff Member

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    No, he died in 2005.
     
  8. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Then I think Deontay could take him.
     
  9. grits n gravy

    grits n gravy New Member Full Member

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    Atlas is giving Thurman **** for fighting bums. Wonder what he'll say about Wilder.
     
  10. BlueApollo

    BlueApollo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Teddy is a big Thurman fan.
     
  11. BigEars

    BigEars Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Tyson was a hell of a lot more active though.
    Wilder's been a pro 9 months, in Tyson's first 9 months he had 15 fights.
    In that period he also had a win over dangerous journeyman Conroy Nelson.

    With that said Wilder isn't Tyson and he's not going to be the next Tyson so it's not fair to compare them. With that said considering Wilder has been a pro 9 months, he really could do with more of a tester next time out and if that means he's gonna have to fight off tv without ESPN then that's what they should do. You can pick up some very poor habits consistently fighting poor opposition you can blow away in a round.
     
  12. Saintpat

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    Teddy should tell the truth instead of talking about telling the truth -- ESPN has opponents every week who take fights on little or no notice who aren't prepared for a reason. He should ask his bosses how this keeps happening and hold them responsible.
     
  13. Saintpat

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    Tyson fought more frequently because his management invested a ton of money (more than Golden Boy is investing in Wilder) to keep him fighting every week or two.

    Conroy Nelson was Tyson's 13th opponent. If Wilder doesn't fight a live body by then, you'll have a point. But Tyson's team wouldn't have put him in the same room with Nelson in his first six fights.

    Six fights is six fights. Tyson's first six victims had a worse record than Wilder's.
     
  14. BigEars

    BigEars Boxing Addict Full Member

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    and 9 months is 9 months, whatever the reasons behind it.
    I'm not trying to discredit Wilder here. I'm just saying it's in his best interests that his team start to increase the opposition level a few notches soon or else he mightn't progress the way he should.
     
  15. OBCboxer

    OBCboxer Boxing Junkie Full Member

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