Arthur Abraham vs Paul Williams @160?

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  1. slip&counter

    slip&counter Gimme some X's and O's Full Member

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    who you got? if this fight happened

    I think this would be an easier fight for Paul then against Pavlik, bad match up for AA in terms of styles, only question is williams chin at 160 because AA is a big puncher but i think Williams would just outwork him for a decision.

    would AA do much better then Winky?
     
  2. Finn73

    Finn73 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You know imho Pavlik and Williams, two guys which a high punch output, would only stick to their game plan till they got hit by a triple A bomb. Look at Benn vs. Mclellan. You can't go forward all the time if the one you're chasing has dynamite in his hands. Pavlik would be the tougher opponent, because he has a punch as well, but Williams? I doubt Williams can deal with AA's punching power for 12 rounds.
     
  3. itrymariti

    itrymariti CaƱas! Full Member

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    I agree that this is a much easier fight for PW than Pavlik. I think this would look much like the Winky fight; AA is very lazy, and tends to go into a shell under pressure. Williams would have a good size and reach advantage and would undoubtedly outwork him. Problem is, limited as he may be, AA is a beast of a puncher at MW and Williams is only just moving up. One shot from AA would end it all.
     
  4. slip&counter

    slip&counter Gimme some X's and O's Full Member

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    Williams wouldn't be going forward walking into punches, Paul can box going backwards and has ridiculous stamina, spells bad news for AA.

    Williams wingspan dwarfs AA as well plus he's taller in height, and is a freak with that frame, size of his arms and workrate. He has a 82 reach which means he can pitch from the mound with a reach that long. as i said he can fight going backwards (proved vs Margarito) Abraham has a nice jab but i think Paul would be doing the "cha cha" slide to frustrate Abraham. not to mension AA would be drained at this weight much weaker and even less output as the fights like gevor proved.
     
  5. dbouziane

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    i dunno man, this is kind of a difficult fight to call b/c it could very easily go 1 of 2 ways.

    1. pw just does what he did to winky only worse b/c of the way aa fights. williams uses his reach and workrate to keep aa in his shell defense and out of range when he decides to pop out of it and wins a very wide UD

    2. pw is up big on the cards when aa pops out of his shell and damn near knocks williams head off and stops him. winky did hit williams. winky did not have enough to deter williams. aa has huge one punch power. it is very possible that williams is winning to the point of the fight being a joke when he gets caught and sparked cold.

    i honestly can't decide b/c both scenarios are just as likely imho
     
  6. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    Paul williams is the better boxer and if it went 12, should win.

    Does it go 12 ?

    Don't think so.

    PW doesn't have enough to deter AA from coming forward.

    And he's never faced AA level of power.

    AA by KO in late rounds.

    PW is 'comfortably' ahead on all scorecards at time of stoppage.
     
  7. Hozumi's Hook

    Hozumi's Hook WHO NECKS!?!? Full Member

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    Tough decision between AA KO and PW UD.

    I'm going for AA KO though.
     
  8. NALLEGE

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    PW would not last 6 rounds with AA. All those punches that he would try to land on AA would not land, and as soon as AA uncoiled, it would be over. AA is used to fighting taller guys, and if PW came at AA, it would be suicide. AA ko in 5.......
     
  9. Hermit

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    Yeah. Paul did not use range well against Winky, but he didn't have too. He SHOULD know going in that with AA he would have to control range at all costs.
     
  10. NALLEGE

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    PW would not be able to take AA's power. There isn't anyone out there right now who I see that can beat AA at 160 or 168...no one!
     
  11. NALLEGE

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    PW would know first hand what it is like to be hit with body punches from a true body puncher.
     
  12. slip&counter

    slip&counter Gimme some X's and O's Full Member

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    the thing is Paul can fight in different ways, styles make fights and that shell defence would be a nightmere for AA in this match up. I think this would look like either khan/kotelnik or clottey/cotto in terms of levels of difficulty for williams. Paul would be peppering that guard and then be gone when AA opened up, even if shots wouldn't landing PW would be scoring on the cards. AA would be to methodical plus williams wouldn't have to fight short or on the inside which is what courses problems
     
  13. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    While I would pick him over Williams, he would have his work cut out against Kessler.
     
  14. tays001

    tays001 ESB ELITE SQUAD Full Member

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    AA would knock him out cold i have nodoubts. PW has a flicking jab and he would walk into a counter . he seems to have a good chin but i have a felling he would take one to many counter left hooks when coming in. AA is no andy Kolle
     
  15. Landshark

    Landshark Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If AA does not respect his opponents power(Raul Marquez), HE COMES FORWARD. PW is there to be hit with left counters, hooks and uppercuts, easier fight for AA then Pavlik. PW's output won't bother AA. Two scenarios, 1. If Paul Williams "decides" to go for the points victory, AA KTFO PW Round 5 or 6, getting caught by a counter after getting hurt by vicious body punches 2. Paul Williams boxing aa, scoring get out of harms way. I think scenario 2 is more likely but AA packs power every second of 12 rounds. I see AA walking PW down and catching him rounds 7-9. No doubt Pavlik will test PW chin, and this will be the deciding factor in PW's MW or SMW career.