Innovations in boxing - the innovators who didn't change a thing

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  1. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Greb special
     
  2. Muchmoore

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    Tyson Fury deserves credit for this gem

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  3. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    As far as I can tell in the manual, yes. His raised front heel allowed him to step wide, plant firmly, and nail the guy with a very powerful right hand without losing much time.

    The exception is his right "swing", which leaves you in a standing position.
     
  4. TheGreatA

    TheGreatA Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Robinson said he borrowed many of his moves from Kid Chocolate.
     
  5. McGrain

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    :lol:

    Well someone had to bring it up. And to be fair, it never gets old.

    If he fouls himself, who gets the point?
     
  6. McGrain

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    Wow. The specific mechanics of that move are of great interest...it would leave him a little bit vulnerable himself though? Dangerous against a crowding puncher (Which is also when it would be most effective).
     
  7. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    :rofl:rofl

    i love taht video

    surely a NC McGrain if he cant continue otherwise there would be no points off, just to be all pedantic about it
     
  8. Chinxkid

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    To me the answer to 'Why' great innovators haven't been copied is because in order for a would-be imitator to become a great fighter himself, he has to develop his OWN style. They all learn from the fighters they admire, but to copy them to the point of emulating will keep them always at second best, and never able to reach their true potential. I think what they do is look at the approach, the technique boiled down to purpose. For example if I'm not mistaken Mike Tyson admired Willie Pep. From watching them both I'd say it might have been Willie's elusiveness in the pocket that Mike tried to "adapt" to his own style. But Mike would be in there with big guns, more often than not out-reached, so he'd have to be a lot more aggressive than Willie. They take a little of this guy and a little of that guy, the best of the guys they learn from and here's the important part, then ... Make it their own!

    It's true in everything. As long as you are trying to be just like Coltrane or just like Norman Mailer or just like Sugar Ray Robinson, you have not even begun to find the best You.