If Froch wins the Super Six series... does his legacy surpass Calzaghes?

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  1. brown bomber

    brown bomber 2010 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    Domestically he's already beaten better fighters then Calzaghe managed. Now moving onto world class he's beaten the WBC light heavyweight champion Jean Pascal in the British FOTY and former World Middleweight champion Jermain Taylor in a contender for international FOTY. Next he takes on highly touted former Olympic bronze medallist Andre Dirrell a fighter who is probably superior to Jeff Lacy when Calzaghe fought him in his 40th odd fight and 16th defence.

    At the same stage in his career, Calzaghe had captured the vacant WBO title against a weight drained Eubank who took the bout at short notice and was a long way past his best, would never win another fight and hadn't scored a world class victory in four years.

    In his first defence he took on Branko Sobot who unsuprisingly wasn't the former undisputed middleweight champion. The fight took place in Cardiff not in his opponents country. Sobot like Lacy must have suffered a brutal beating at the hands of Calzaghe as he would win just 5 of his remaining 16 contests.

    It would take Calzaghe a further 21 fights before Calzaghe developed the confidence to fight the man whom Jermain Taylor beat. In his next defence he fought Juan Carlos Giminez. Giminez unfortunately didn't boast an unbeaten record or an olympic medal but to his credit he fought Eubank, Benn, Duran, Mauro Galvano and Juan Roldan unfortunately losing virtually every round to each one of them. He earned his shot at Calzaghe by beating Robson dos santos 1-1, Paul Jones 3-4 and classy veteran Miguel Lopez 1-12-3.

    If Froch beats Kessler, Abraham, Dirrell and/ or olympic Gold medalist Andre Dirrell are people going to accept Froch as an ATG or must he make a further 15 defences against the giminez's of this world?

    Go on Froch-lad!!! :good:good:good
     
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  2. Beeston Brawler

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    :lol:

    Cue Scurla with his Artur Grigorian comparison :deal
     
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  3. Mr. Tom Jones

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    i would like froch to win it but i think he is arguably the least skilled out of the boxers. he could get out-boxed by any of the others.
     
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  4. brown bomber

    brown bomber 2010 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    Froch has to win it...... If I get one thing off Santa this and next year I want Froch to end the Calzaghe ATG debate. If he wins it will be the perfect way to demonstrate how blind some people are.
     
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  5. Beeston Brawler

    Beeston Brawler Comical Ali-egedly Full Member

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    Just stop reading the boxing features in the News of the World :yep

    Andy Dunn is an excellent writer but is seriously misguided when it comes to boxing.

    Who are your top 5 Jeff, btw?
     
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  6. dan-b

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    There have been far too many Calzaghe threads on here recently.
     
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  7. brown bomber

    brown bomber 2010 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    Oh and by the way Alan Page who Froch stopped in his tenth fight beat Kessler in the amateurs. Kessler is a hype job conveniently placed on a pedestal by Calzaghe loyalists :)
     
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  8. Grant1

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    Jeff's on a mission recently.
     
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  9. brown bomber

    brown bomber 2010 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    One a week until the exposure takes place and then they will bumped for the forseeable future. :good
     
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  10. brown bomber

    brown bomber 2010 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    :lol: Its just a bit of a laff really... no one has to read them. But you Calzaghe fans better pray Kessler wins this
     
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  11. dan-b

    dan-b Boxing Junkie banned

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    I feel the same about Calzaghe as you do but I'd rather just forget about him than waste time trying to convince nuthuggers who jumped on the bandwagon yesterday.
     
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  12. dan-b

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    Yeah, that always makes me laugh. Like Joe recieves some vicarious credit because a fighter may have improved after he's fought him. Also, the way his fans took some kind of "victory" out of Hopkins' schooling of Pavlik.
     
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  13. Gaz S

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    Try living in South Wales. Calzaghe's a god here. This, from people who have never even heard of Jimmy Wilde or Howard Winstone, fighters from their own door step.
     
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  14. brown bomber

    brown bomber 2010 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    Its very hard to seperate the top guys... I like......

    1. Sugar Ray Robinson
    2. Roberto Duran
    3. Henry Armstrong
    4. Muhammed Ali/ Joe Louis
    5. Willie Pepp

    But I really can't seperate any of them. Pepp was just amazing, Louis was my all time fave thats why I called my son Joe Louis.

    Whats yours mate?
     
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  15. Grant1

    Grant1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If Froch wins it I'm convinced Joe will come out and fight him. He'll be too arrogant to be able to accept all of the praise Froch gets.

    If you manage to brainwash everybody with you Flint-like threads I'm even more convinced he will :lol:
     
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