Roy Jones Jr. vs. Bernard Hopkins II

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  1. OBCboxer

    OBCboxer Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    How do you all think a second fight would go between Jones Jr. and Hopkins set in 2010?

    I feel Roy still has his blazing handspeed and reflexes; it's his legs that are gone. He can't fight for more than 3 rounds in the center of the ring and will have to resort to the ropes. I actually think this fight will be closer than you think; Hopkins presents no problems stylistically to Roy that I can see. I feel Hopkins is the fresher of the two and should be considered the favorite.
     
  2. Flea Man

    Flea Man มวยสากล Full Member

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    Hopkins PTS. A fitting end for both to retire with IMO
     
  3. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    I need to see this one before they both ride off into the sunset.
     
  4. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    Suddenly Jones seems to be of interest to people again.

    Perhaps he can write a last champter to his career after all.
     
  5. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    Well, beating Lacy was certainly more impressive then the Trinidad win which was about as close to a important win in a fight that Roy has had for years.
     
  6. TBooze

    TBooze Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I agree; styles make fights, thus Jones WM12 (7-5).
     
  7. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    So who is there out there who would be the right stylistic match for him to go out in style?
     
  8. Robbi

    Robbi Marvelous Full Member

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    I'd take Hopkins to win a close decision if they fought later this year.
     
  9. Dismantled

    Dismantled Existentialist Full Member

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    I have this funny feeling that Roy might still have Bernard's number.
     
  10. Rubber Warrior

    Rubber Warrior Resident ESB Soothsayer Full Member

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    Hopkins via TKO around the ninth.
     
  11. OBCboxer

    OBCboxer Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I don't think Hopkins stops him as he doesn't have the workrate or the power to trouble Roy. Stylistically, Roy has the advantage over Hopkins, but Bernard is the fresher of the two. I still have trouble picking the winner even though Hopkins should be/is favored to win this fight if it comes off. Part of me believes Roy still has the speed and savviness to outpoint B-Hop. Another part of me believes Roy is too far past it and B-hop is fresh enough to overcome the stylistic disadvantage and win a decision.
     
  12. OBCboxer

    OBCboxer Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    EDIT: After re-watching Jones-Lacy and Hopkins-Pavlik I have come to one final conclusion.

    At this point in both of their careers neither fighters are agressive in the ring but Hopkins is a bit more. Hopkins is going to have to take the fight to Roy as Jones is content with letting his opponent come to him no matter the circumstances. Hopkins doesn't apply the type of pressure that Trinidad, Hanshaw, Calzaghe and Lacy do right now. So Jones will actually not have to spend time on the ropes because Hopkins won't pin him and hug on him against the ropes like the above did. He also doesn't have the workrate to wear Jones down like Calzaghe did nor the pressure.

    The reason Jones was against the ropes against Lacy was because Jeff pushed and hugged him on the ropes. Hopkins will not do this as he is a counterpuncher now and is a crude defender. The times Roy was off the ropes is when Lacy chose to box and stay away from Jones. Not once in these periods did Roy resort to the ropes. I feel Roy still has enough in him, coupled with a stylistic advantage, to win a close decision against Bernard.
     
  13. essexboy

    essexboy The Cat Full Member

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    Hopkins UD. Hes got more in the tank and would expose Jones again.
     
  14. klompton

    klompton Boxing Addict banned

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    Lord, Jones beats a completely shot, one dimensional, and always overrated Lacy and suddenly people think he is actually a fighter again. He wasnt even when he was in his prime and he certainly isnt now...
     
  15. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    as if these guys will agree on a purse split