Cotto/Pac outselling Floyd/Marquez by far!

Also keep in mind that both are defense first fighters. It might take them a few rounds before they even begin to land on each other.

 

This is VERY true. But I think the underlying argument here is whether Floyd deserves a lion share cut in the potential future match-up between him and Pac.

Everyone here seems to be saying that Pac deserves the lion's share of the cut here because of his smash success of the Pac/Cotto fight in comparison to the Floyd/Marquez fight.

Sadly though more people are giving more credit to Pac in the success than Floyd.

The truth of the matter is that it's Cotto that's helping Pac get the sales that he is. Pac and Floyd are big big draws. I actually think Pac is the bigger draw currently. His style is more pleasing and he's been on a hot streak. SO I think he's the bigger draw. But the success of his sales in this upcoming bout is more of a testament to what Cotto brings to the table in comparison to Marquez.

Floyd's fight isnt and was never about money to begin with. It was a business move for his possible fight with Pac. Floyd will plan to dominate and KO Marquez to one-up Pac. This way he can turn around and say Im the cash king and I beat on Marquez...something you couldnt do!

This was never a point to prove he sells the most despite the money talk he's been spitting out

 

lol...Honestly Nag, you got a major stiffy for Floyd. And you are completely biased. Both fights are at a catch weight, no one is a "*****" for fighting guys in different weight classes. If anything you should be calling Floyd a ***** for trying to face JMM who hasn't ever faught above 140.

But to call anyone of these 4 fighters a *****, or pulling a "***** move" is laughable. I mean, these are pro boxers at the highest level of the sport and someone on a key board wants to start name calling like you're someone. Get a grip homie. These are two fights with 4 fighters who are at the top of the sport. Enjoy it as a fan. Stop bitching about PAC just b/c you don't like him. For christ sake....you don't gotta like the man but you're an absolute fool if you don't respect him.

Ticket sales or PPV sales means ****. But it's clear PAC is outselling Floyd for a number of reasons. He's more current in he game, Floyd is coming back. PAC is the #1 P4P fighter in boxing and Floyd is fighting someone PAC has already beaten twice.

Regarding Floyd outselling PAC with common opponents.....you only scratch the surface to cater to you own POV. The economy world wide was at an all time hight for Floyd vs. Ricky and DLH.....when PAC faught them the economy was at an all time LOW. Rick and DLH both lost to Floyd and PAC was fighting two guys whom had already faced the previous P4P champ in floyd.

 

Nag doesn't take that into consideration when coming up with his biased views. Why should he when he clearly doesn't like PAC for whatever reason. He's more a fan of fighters than the sport of boxing itself.

 

It's a GLOBAL recession and it hurts everyones pockets. PAC facing DLH and Rick did GREAT numbers considering the economy world wide. I didn't expect him to out do Floyd vs DLH or Floyd vs Hatton for two reasons....the economy is one and the fact that Ricky was undefeated and DLH was facing the P4P champ as the Glolden Ticket in boxing at the time. Yet PAC still did comparable numbers all this considered.

 

we got a winner here fellas. :rofl:rofl:rofl

 

The state of the global economy and the fact that BOTH DLH and Rick had already faught and lost to the previous P4P champ in Floyd. Believe me......the reason why Floyd did the numbers he did with Rick and DLH had less to do with him and more to do with his opponents. The same with PAC. The arguement is who is a bigger draw now? I say PAC simply b/c PAC is more relevant at the moment than floyd due to his retirement. Both are big draws but not like DLH or Ricky Hatton was in the UK and US respectively.

 

joking aside, the reality is that pbf, dlh, hatton and pac were big draws during their time. unfortunately, some pbf fans insist that he is still the main draw despite the fact that he has not been fighting for almost 2 years.

if these people understand the concept of "market value", it would be easy to realize that it has a lot to do with exposure and performance. much like actors who are hot today but with careers on the downslide in two years. ergo, they might be making 10m per film now but 2 million two years from now. there are various factors involved, economy, co-stars, (opponent if your in boxing).

which basically means that pbf fans are living in the past. the market reception for both fights are clearly different based primarily on two factors.

1. opponent: pbf is fighting an older, smaller fighter who had to come up 2 weights to fight him whereas pac is fighting a welterweight who was asked to shed one pound from his last weigh in weight. pbf-jmm are both known counterpunchers and safety first whereas cotto and pac are slambang fighters, hence more excitement.

2. Market Value: pac is considered the hot commodity right now while PBf has been out of the ring for a long time. Pac has been giving us exciting fights the past 5 years or so whereas the pbf-dlh fight was deemed a snoozer.

in essence, market reception cannot go wrong because law of supply and demand is as work here and, no it cannot be repealed. esb fans should not think that they have a monopoly on intelligence and insist that the pbf-jmm fight is going to be a competitive fight. market reception is based on their appreciation of odds and clearly pac-cotto would be more competitive in terms of odds compared to pbf-jmm.

people who insist that pbf-jmm scrap is a truly competitive fight should bet their house and car plus avatar, just to be sure that you put your money where your mouth is.

 

We'll see how things turn out.


Probably what will be best is 50/50. Both are going to make huge amounts of cash.

 

oh what a suprise

 

Why am I not surprised somehow? :huh

 

Jason Chaos killed all the Floyd nuthuggers attempting to talk about economy.

 

Did anyone see the countdown? Before JMM started to bulk? The size difference was very smaller. It's been blown out of proportion.

 

Best post in the thread

 

the guy is a pussy****, hell he could have pick some JWW contender or some weak champion from WW like cotto did but he took on a lightweight instead, an old lightweight, pathetic..