Why did team Pavlik and TopRank take the fight ...

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  1. fitzgeraldz

    fitzgeraldz And the new Full Member

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    If Pavlik was still on the mend?

    I don't understand the point of pulling such a stunt. I'm wondering whats up with Pavlik, this seems like the begingin of a bunch of excuses no matter what happens.

    Sergio Mora now Paul Williams ... and from what I understand he's only defended those titles twice ... it seems in my opinion that he's baby sitting those belts and trying to get as much pub as the champion as possible.

    He should've unified the title ... he should have fought more notable names ... and he shouldn't have taken this fight if he was still injured.
     
  2. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member

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    He should have been in the SMW tournament. Imagine if he doesn't make weight in his next fight? lol
     
  3. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    That's a good point. Why the hell did they agree to this fight if Pavlik wasn't even cleared to fight and was supposedly battling a staph infection for 5 to 6 months? You would think that they would make sure that was cleared up first(if indeed it had been a problem for 5 to 6 months), before they agreed to fight anyone. Pavlik also supposedly had a 100 degree fever and bronchitis when he fought Hopkins. Maybe this guy has a comprimised immune system.
     
  4. marauder1999

    marauder1999 Champion Full Member

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    I personally think that the infection flared up out of nowhere on him and caught the camp by surprise. I dont think it was intentional given the fact that they were in negotiations for months.
     
  5. fitzgeraldz

    fitzgeraldz And the new Full Member

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    I think Pavlik was disappointed that he wasn't invited into the super middleweight tournament ... that would've been a great thing for him ... there's no competition at middleweight and he must be having trouble making weight. I know its not easy for him with that 6'3 frame.

    He shouldn't have made that move to fight anyone before he knew if he was completely healthy or not.
     
  6. itrymariti

    itrymariti Cañas! Full Member

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    Pavlik has been looking to unify since the dawn of time. The first thing he said when he first won those belts was "unification". Sturm doesn't want to fight; AA's moved up; so that's not on the cards.

    Williams - whom Pavlik picked - is the best fight around for him right now.

    As for why they made the fight with Pavlik injured: it's unlikely they knew.
     
  7. booradley

    booradley Mean People Kick Ass! Full Member

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    More notable names? And just exactly who is more notable than Jermain Taylor and Bernard Hopkins? He fought those guys while Arthur Abraham fight Elvin Ayala and Raul Maquez! Around the same time as those fights Sturm fought Pittman and Sylvester. Now please tell me, who fought the "more notable names?"

    You said he should have unified, and then at the same time you're insinuating that he should not have fought Rubio or Lockett. Since those guys were both mandatories, you assertions make absolutely no sense.
     
  8. booradley

    booradley Mean People Kick Ass! Full Member

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    I'm really getting tired of trying to talk to people who simply are not willing to learn anything. There is NOTHING UNUSUAL about reccuring problems with a staph infection. There have actually been cases where a victim seemed fine at bedtime, and was dead before morning.
     
  9. AbbeyFN

    AbbeyFN Active Member Full Member

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    People on here are ignorant. I don't waste my time responding to their stupidity.
     
  10. BigBone

    BigBone Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Oh hell no. The SMW has a very tight schedule and although all 6 fighters are healthy and very professional outside of the ring, injuries, illnesses, pull-outs and personal issues can and I'm afraid at some point will happen.

    Now Kelly Pavlik has produced ALL of these unfortunate factors, injuries, illnesses, personal issues and pull-outs in a short time, it seems too much **** happens around him. No offense, but the tourney needs a lot more dedication and professionalism to keep it together.

    It's a great thing Kelly signed for the Williams fight, so he should concectrate to pull his stuff together, and IMO, although Booradley will disagree, he should simply leave YT and Loew and find another place and trainer for better focus. It helped so many fighters in the past.
     
  11. monr31

    monr31 Member Full Member

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    i think the article says that his hand is just generally infected. the staph is gone and the doctor said it was fine, so he stopped going to appointments. the wounded knuckle got infected after the staph was removed. this would not be as serious as a staph infection but of course takes time to heal (the article says IV drip is required).
    i don't think williams should wait. he loses money by waiting and he potentially loses some ring chops as well from inactivity. he should fight cintron or someone else in october if he can and then fight whoever wins the KP fight in december.
     
  12. K-Man

    K-Man Well-Known Member Full Member

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    One thing is certain, Pavlik shouldn't stick around in his hometown to the docs there, but visit someone who is an EXPERT on that matter. If he catches some serious infection, it could end his career, if not life. Several soccer pros died or broke down when they failed to treat infections well and immediately, most often if that spreads to the heart and causes a pericarditis. You can just drop down dead in training every moment if you get that, it happened like 6-8 times in the last couple of years in pro soccer.
     
  13. ryanty22

    ryanty22 VRWC Sledgehammer Full Member

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    the man gained #1 contender status knocking out Edison Miranda, then took the titles by KNOCKING OUT an undefeated Jermain Taylor (who beat B-hop twice), beat Jermain Taylor in a rematch at a catchweight, beat the ever loving **** out of Gary Lockett who was a mandatory for the title, fought and lost to B-hop at a catchweight(no shame in that, the man is a living legend), beat the **** out of Marco Antonio Rubio who was another mandatory. Now he has signed to fight Paul Williams who is on just about everyones pound for pound list for the titles once his staph infection clears up. theres not many people in boxing with a six fight streak wiht a seventh fight lined up like that. everyone is disappointed about no fight with A.A. but due to politics or whatever i very truely believe that neither pav nor abraham ducked the other and pavs last six beats every other middle weights last six out there by far
     
  14. fitzgeraldz

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    He's scared to fight Williams for one reason or another !!
     
  15. itrymariti

    itrymariti Cañas! Full Member

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    Yeah, that's why he told Arum to stuff the other four fighters HBO proposed, ASKED for Williams, and told Dunkin to make whatever sacrificies were necessary to land the fight. :patsch:patsch:patsch