Super Six: Froch vs Dirrell

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  1. Irishrover91

    Irishrover91 REP 4 SOUTH AFRICA Full Member

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    Yeah but i think that Frochs defense is too low and will eat the Jab all day long
     
  2. slip&counter

    slip&counter Gimme some X's and O's Full Member

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    ^ stop acting like Dirrell has a winky-esque jab with the power of Liston (i would say Taylor has a better jab then him) and Dirrell's jab is no more effective or consistant then Froch's. Froch maybe stiff as a board but he's strong as an ox so its gonna take more then a decent jab to keep him thinking and control the distance, plus Dirrell isn't exactly like pinning jelly to a wall either, he is at times a very stationary target and walks into punches particulary right hands as i said.

    If there's gonna be a Knockout (which is likely imo) then its Froch who's getting it. I think Dirrell is being slightly overated bearing in mind he ain't done nothing yet.
     
  3. slip&counter

    slip&counter Gimme some X's and O's Full Member

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    Dirrell needs to maintain distance (which he doesn't do well) to do this he'll need to fight with faster, longer range punches, and most importantly to establish the jab and give Froch something to think about and fellow a strict strategy trying to control the pace of the fight and make Froch lead and counter as he paws with the Jab. Dirrell needs...reach (he ain't got over Carl) hand speed...(not enough especially in combination)...reflexes....(decent) and footwork...(has footwork but doesn't use it well enough because he circles into powershots)

    For me Dirrell is not good enough of a boxer-puncher/well-rounded boxer who is able to fight at close range with a combination of technique and power. He's slightly confused in his movement and tactics. Froch may lack finesse and footwork in the ring, but makes up for it through punching power and underated "deceptive" skills. He's a pressure fighter who doesn't need to attempt to stay too close to an opponent, or throw intense flurries and combinations of hooks and uppercuts or maneuver inside. Niether of these guys are slippery in the pocket defensive style fighters. so fighting at a close range won't be as important or decisive. most counters are gonna come while they both remain on the outside and from distance.

    A Massively important punch in this fight is the right cross in Froch's favour, Froch throws this very well from the rear hand. He thrusts forward the rear shoulder finishes it well in a straight line. Froch needs to retract that left lead and tuck it to protect the inside of the chin as he'll get countered. His torso and hips are rotated counter-clockwise as the cross is thrown. The rotation and the sudden weight transfer is what gives the Right cross its power and Froch performance this technique very well. This punch is also gonna be key because Froch can use It to counter Dirrell's jab, A Cross over his outstretched jab is what Dirrell is very susceptible to.
     
  4. TFFP

    TFFP The Eskimo

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    This simply comes down to whether Dirrell handles the occasion, and deals with pressure somewhat better than he's shown against the likes of Hanshaw. He's vastly more talented overall, but talent doesn't neccessarily mean **** unless you know how to use it, especially when Froch's game is mostly based around toughness and intangibles.
     
  5. KingCobra

    KingCobra IBF World Champion Full Member

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    He may be talented, but if ability is a recipe, Dirrell appears to be missing some essential ingredients.
     
  6. hitman_hatton1

    hitman_hatton1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    dirrell will be too quick and too slick.

    he's faster and good on his feet.

    enough pop to make froch think twice.

    nice and relaxed fighting style.

    won't tire like taylor did.

    has proved he can stand his ground and bang back with a few guys already.

    dirrell on pts. :good
     
  7. nickythekid

    nickythekid Active Member Full Member

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    i got my ticket on the way, cant wait for fight night. prediction= froch isn't coming to box, too strong, too intent. he must be a menacing man to face in a boxing ring. i also think he has better skills than he has shown in the past two fights where he has stepped up. i dont think dirrell is a step up like he has taken so hopefully he will relax and turn it on.
     
  8. slip&counter

    slip&counter Gimme some X's and O's Full Member

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    away from this fight for a sec.

    I see the Pavlik/Williams fight might be a no go for good! apparently Paul's people did all they were suppose too, not to get bent over like this! In the end, we as fans lose out as usual. Pavlik is holding them belts hostage by beating up bar patrons. I'm glad Goosen is keeping Paul busy despite the BS! Looks like Pavlik Dodged a true fighter for a gimmick opponent.

    I've noted a another thing If you read Goosen comments the word "problem" and Pavlik's name pops up. I don't know the finer details but i think there is a non boxing related issue going on ( you do the maths). Rescheduling fights aren't like carnivals. Dates in boxing are very intimate.

    Goosen did his part and rescheduling a fight on the same date as the Super Six tourney is about as stupid as you can get. That's what you call "burning your own money". The only person to blame is Pavlik at this junction. Also Eddie Chambers is scheduled to fight Klitscko on the other vacant date. Paul and his camp signed the fight and they weren't the ones who cancelled.
     
  9. slip&counter

    slip&counter Gimme some X's and O's Full Member

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    Enjoy, you lucky basterd :good

    I was gonna go, but nothingham is just too far and a couple of mates bailed out on me....didn't fancy going on my own, lets just hope this gets televised and not on some shitty stream asking for a tenner.
     
  10. slip&counter

    slip&counter Gimme some X's and O's Full Member

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    I agree, but we'll just have to see what he cooks up because the meal could still be tasty. :good
     
  11. Farmboxer

    Farmboxer VIP Member Full Member

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    Americans give Froch zero chance against Dirrell. Most say that Dirrell will get an easy knockout early, a complete mismatch.
     
  12. Grant1

    Grant1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That doesn't seem to be the consensus on the GF.
     
  13. nickythekid

    nickythekid Active Member Full Member

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    i'm going on my own, i was going to go to pascal and didn't in the end because of journey, but when i watched it on telly i wished i was there. it would be a travesty if it isn't on the box, whats the man got to do to be televised? seems to me that he he is 110% focused on getting where he wants to be, making the sacrifices and doing the work, no matter what anyone thinks about his boxing you have to admire that. probably plenty of boxers more naturally talented but without the drive and determination who wont make to the top levels.
     
  14. Clarkson

    Clarkson Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Froch by late TKO, I'm going for round 11.

    I think Dirrell not having reach advantage will allow Froch to come more and more into the fight after the first few rounds.
     
  15. Losfer_Words

    Losfer_Words Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    In Farmboxer's world, facts account for nothing. If he says a British boxer will lose, it's because they are inferior to Americans (in his opinion).