Was the Cro Cop who Gonzaga fought in his prime?

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  1. radab

    radab Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Just having an arguement with a noob on a different thread who's trying to say that the Cro Cop who Gonzaga destroyed was as good as the Cro Cop Fedor beat


    What do you think?


    Was the Cro Cop Gonzaga beat still prime Cro Cop?
     
  2. solidchin

    solidchin fasthands Full Member

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    to be honest i think cro cop was past his prime or maybe fedor did something to him mentally after there fight because he hasnt looked the same since which iss a shame
     
  3. Taylor_brogdon

    Taylor_brogdon Active Member Full Member

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    Aw come on, Cro Cop just got caught. It happens to everyone.
     
  4. Blue145

    Blue145 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Arlovski was also on a 5 win streak before Fedor won him, and it is credited as a shite win. People are just people and will discredit things that don't fit their agenda.
     
  5. jimmie

    jimmie Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yes, Cro Cop was about 7-8 months removed from winning the Pride Grand Prix and brutally stopping Wanderlei Silva and Josh Barnett in the same night. He didnt just get shot over night.
     
  6. scurlaruntings

    scurlaruntings ESB 2002 Club Full Member

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    I call this Randleman syndrome. CC came to the UFC and thought that title had his name on it. Admittedly he's had a ton of injuries that have hampered his performance greatly. But off the back of the GP where he put on such a stunning display of clinical savagery i wasnt expecting him to pull his Randleman syndrome out of the bag and expect Gonzaga to be a gimme. :-(
     
  7. jimmie

    jimmie Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I know Cro Cop has that cocky mindset but dude listen agianst Gonzaga he got took down and battered with elbows dont you think the whooping he was already taking would have atleast woke him up and said **** this guy is for real ? Gonzaga can beat anyone in the world including Fedor IMO as long as the other guy doesnt get a strong chance to fight back if you catch where im going. His skills are as good as anyones or maybe atleast high level but his heart and composure are surely lacking. I still believe that horrifying KO is in his head alittle he never recovered.
     
  8. Vitor Belfort

    Vitor Belfort Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    he was still very good but like he said after the fight, he is not used to getting elbowed when he is on the ground. He was a little lightheaded after they got back on their feet and who would have imagine gonzaga throwing a high kick.

    Crocop didn't expect it so he got KTFO.
     
  9. Beebs

    Beebs Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He was getting handled before the KO as well.

    If he wasn't "prime" he was 90% or more.
     
  10. scurlaruntings

    scurlaruntings ESB 2002 Club Full Member

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    It was very similar to his KO against Kevin.
     
  11. achillesthegreat

    achillesthegreat FORTUNE FAVOURS THE BRAVE Full Member

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    Cro Cop got caught. When Cro is on form like he was when he beat Silva, he looks unstoppable but I think a major issue for him is his mindset.
     
  12. WiDDoW_MaKeR

    WiDDoW_MaKeR ESB Hall of Fame Member Full Member

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    Definitely in his prime. He was in his prime directly before when he dominated his way through the Pride GP... after which MMA fans began to say that he would WIN a rematch against Fedor. Then, after Gonzaga destroyed him, everyone started acting like he was shot. I guess what really bothers me about that is that I don't want MMA fans to start acting like boxing fans in that regard. CC was at his best, and he got dominated. He didn't get caught, he wasn't washed up. He just got dominated at his best.
     
  13. brandon9624

    brandon9624 Member Full Member

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    CroCop's UFC debut was pretty impressive. I know it was Eddie Sanchez, but CroCop stalked and beat him down as if someone dropped a rat in an anaconda tank at feeding time.
     
  14. scurlaruntings

    scurlaruntings ESB 2002 Club Full Member

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    Sanchez is/was a can.
     
  15. achillesthegreat

    achillesthegreat FORTUNE FAVOURS THE BRAVE Full Member

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    Yep. It's a slippery slope where ultimately no fighter ever gets credit and careers are never assessed correctly because opinions are manipulated and based on who you are a fan of.