Langford vs. Charles at 175

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  1. Mendoza

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    Who would you pick to win between a peak version of Langford and Charles with a weigh in limit of 175 pounds?
     
  2. Mr Butt

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    your not happy with the list then
     
  3. Mendoza

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    I just want to see a thread on this one. Perhaps there is something I overlooked. Even if I disagree on an opinion, there is a chance new information could surface in a thread which might teach me a thing or two.

    The way I see it, Charles lacked the power to keep Langford off of him, and the chin to out last him in exchanges. Langford was also very good at cutting off the ring.
     
  4. he grant

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    Langford by KO ...
     
  5. teeto

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    I think Langford is one of the few men that might beat him, like you say Mendoza, he's not going to stop coming. But Ezzard Charles is still my number one at the weight.
     
  6. Manassa

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    Charles certainly didn't lack any power - he scored many a crushing knockout. Are we forgetting that he killed a man? At light heavyweight, while not a hitter in Bob Foster's league, Charles had the sting to keep even the most durable fighters at bay.

    Langford was a skilled, offensive powerhouse, but Charles at his best had a knack for getting the job done. It's one of the things that moves him up into the 'best of the best' category alongside Ray Robinson. Didn't matter what kind of style he fought; swarmer, puncher, boxer, he pulled something out of his sleeve to get the win, whether it be by boxing his way to a decision or pulling a punch out of nowhere to maim his opponent.

    I think Charles would just have too many answers for Langford, who would be at a significant advantage on the outside, and on the inside he'd definitely hold his own.
     
  7. SuzieQ49

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    Ezzard Charles in his prime was not called the "Cinicinatti Cobra" for nothing...He had lethal power at 175lb. Not only did he knockout ATG fighters at this weight, he also KILLED a Ring Magazine top 10 contender with his power. Do not question Charles power at 175lb. He certainly has the power and tools to cut langfords face into ribbons.



    Very unrealistic outcome
     
  8. Flea Man

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    this:deal
     
  9. Mendoza

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    The reaches of the fighters were, Langford at 74", and Charles at 73".

    Charles was taller, but Langford had longer arms. Langford could in fight or out fight. So could Charles. I just don't see the significant advantage on the outside for Charles.

    On the inside, Langford was far stronger.

    On film Charles liked to mix it up far more than stick and move like say Ali. Mixing it up with a harder puncher, who was more durable and just as skilled is a recipe for disaster.
     
  10. Mr Butt

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    i thought langford had a reach of 73 also, and he was about 5 foot 7" or just under .either way charles would be advsied to box clever as mixing it would be danderous .saying that i feel it would be just as dangerous for langford to take to many chances with charles`s power. charles would realise he needs to stay controlled and would box from distance as much as langford would allow and i feel would pull off a close decision win
     
  11. Mr Butt

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    Mendoza could it be that langford is the best super-middle ever
     
  12. The Funny Man 7

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    There isn't a whole lot to seperate the two. I definitely don't see Langford getting knocked out in this one though.
     
  13. janitor

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    Honestly Langford could knock virtualy anybody out on a given night.

    I don't think he would knock out Oliver McCall but I wouldn't bet money against it either.

    Langford might not be much like Jersey Joe Walcott stylisticaly but that punch that seperated Charles from the title was the kind of punch he often brought to the party. Probably not unlike the one that took out Harry Wills.
     
  14. Manassa

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    Langford had a longer reach? More like wingspan, not necessarily arm length. Width-of-back contributes also.

    Even so, Charles' height still gives him an advantage.

    Ignoring technical aspects for a moment; I don't know why, but somehow Langford is perceived as invincible by a lot of people on this site. Yes, there are fights he deserved to win but didn't, but there also fights he won that could or should have been awarded to his opponent. He was vulnerable at times; more a win-win-lose-win-win-win-lose against top opposition, more of an Archie Moore figure at his best. Not like a peak Charles who was win-win-win-win-win-win-win until he wore himself out.
     
  15. Flea Man

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    agree 100%:good